Mark Sargent Raging Shill Clues

Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2015 at 11:16am



The following video makes the case that Mark Sargent, creator of "Flat Earth Clues," is a disinformation agent on the level of the controlled opposition "Flat Earth Society": www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/03/flat-earth-society-controlled-op.html

Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2015 at 2:21pm
Some good comments coming in from YouTube:

Todd Maiden: I'm only 9 minutes in so far but I have to comment... First of all, I'm completely convinced that "Sargent Non-Sense" is COINTELPRO. I guess there's always the possibility that he's a complete idiot, but for him to do so many interviews in such a short time, none of which offer any real proof at all, and be legit? That seems like a bit of a stretch. How can anyone who truly cares about a subject not do their research... not do their homework before even agreeing to do an interview??? I know I wouldn't... Who would agree to do an interview on a subject that they know practically nothing about? A normal person would be afraid of making themselves look like an ass! It would be like going on TV or doing some kind of public speech/presentation unprepared... who would do that? Only someone who's being PAID to do it. Only someone who WANTS to look like an idiot because he's trying to discredit the very subject he's talking about! As a matter of fact (assuming he's telling the truth about being new to this subject), I'm actually a little newer than him, having been studying it for only 1 month now, but I know WAY more than he does about it and I could give a WAY better interview than him right already! There's no way he's legit... he's had more time than me to do his homework and he admittedly knows about you and your work (the best out there by far), therefore he has no excuse. I came across his "clues" series of videos before I found your stuff and I have to admit, I was really impressed by them at the time and they had a powerful effect on me. They actually made me hungry for more info, which of course led me to search for every other flat earth video I could find on YT. Of course I downloaded your Flat Earth Conspiracy book on my Kindle for FREE (which is RIDICULOUS... That book is huge and exhaustive and worth paying for) and watched your and other legit flat earthers' videos, but when I heard your "Interview with a Real Flat Earther", I was just blown away. There was just no comparison between you and Sargent Non-Sense... I was getting really sick of listening to his interviews and dealing with his disjointed sentences and self-interruptions and constant parenthetical remarks... it's just torture to even listen to the guy but listening to you calmly and intelligently explain the evidence and proof for the flat earth.... there's just no comparison. Anyway, didn't mean to write a book about it. Back to the video now. Holy shit, I almost missed it... He says he studied the flat earth for 9 MONTHS last year! Holy crap, he should be an absolute expert by now! Especially considering the fact that he has no job and can study all day every day! Wow... he's literally admitting to researching yours and others' material, but he calls it "static-y"... No, he's the one who's "static-y"... then claims he was going for "total clarity" with his info....LOL. His information is the exact opposite of "total clarity"

ImmortalSouls: Nice work Eric at exposing Mark Sargent. I originally thought the same thinking where the hell did this guy come from? And his approach to the Flat Earth as if it's a man made construction with projections and holograms. What nonsense and so many people falling for this view of the Flat Earth. He's definitely a shill. I also had the Flat Earth Society approach me on Youtube after my first couple videos and they were basically telling me to join their forum discussions and discuss with the flat Earthers there. Although I believe they would have shill moderators in their forums. The whole Earth moving upwards to create gravitation is pure nonsense. You definitely destroyed Mark's interview in regards to the lies he was saying about your interaction with him! Good stuff!!! Keep up the good work!

Angel Dunne: Eric if you look at Mark's newest and I mean within the last hour his video......go to 6 mins 41 seconds and you will see who I think is behind him. The greatest shill of them all.......Max Malone, I couldn't believe that shit. It actually says it's a Mad Max production......Got to check that shit out. Maybe you don't know who Max Malone is but anyone who's been around a long time can tell you he's one of the worst shills.

Eric Dubay: I also caught this. In today's interview with Mark, from around the 6 minute to 10 minute point, he is blatantly plagiarizing me, reading right from my book!! And he never mentions at any point that he's reading, or that what he's reading is from Eric Dubay's Flat Earth Conspiracy book. Thanks for nothing! 8-| Here's the section he was reading: "We have been taught that the height of stupidity and naivety was when our ignorant ancestors believed the Earth to be flat, and that if any man somehow still thinks the Earth to be the immovable center of the universe, that they must be the most primitive kind of ignoramus. Nowadays the label “Flat-Earther” has become literally synonymous with “moron” and is a common cliché derogatory term for insulting someone’s intelligence. Upon seeing a book titled “The Flat Earth Conspiracy” your ingrained instinct is likely to laugh, mock the messenger, and deny the very possibility. The fact of the matter is however, that everything is actually just as it appears. The Earth is flat and motionless just as it seems, the Sun/Moon are the same size, and all the celestial bodies revolve around us. This stable geocentric universe, proven true by experience and experiments, which reigned undisputed for thousands of years adequately explaining all Earthly and celestial phenomena, was violently uprooted, spun around, and sent flying through infinite space by a cabal of Sun-worshipping theoretical astronomers. Early Masonic magicians like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and Newton, along with their modern Masonic astro-not counter-parts like Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins, hand-in-hand with NASA and world Freemasonry have pulled off the greatest hoax, propagated the most phenomenal lie, and perpetuated the most complete indoctrination in history."

Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2015 at 3:41pm
Todd Maiden: "Wow, it's conclusive. He just outright lied about you saying you believe in the FES's ridiculous concept of gravity. Even I knew you didn't believe that. What a lying shill. And to think, I literally almost called him after I saw his Raging Clues. Glad I didn't... not that it really matters, I mean, here I am on YouTube with my real name. Same with Facebook, etc... if the NWO ever wants to black bag me, it wouldn't be very hard. He lies about you then takes the high ground... "I'm not going to fight with anybody". The interviewer is an idiot btw and they keep knocking "conspiracies" and "conspiracy theories", which is really bugging me. Maybe his job is to discredit all so-called "conspiracies"...

SovereignFOTL: "I liked his Clues, listened to a couple of his interviews which kinda washed over me, i had him down as an enthusiastic amateur w/o a scientific backround; crrow777 also initially impressed me til i started taking a more critical look after i discovered he was censoring dazzathecamaraman who argues his Lunar Wave is an atmospheric event - i'mspreading myself too thinly, am getting suckered in by shills, embarrassing lol, i had a go at Cae Sar for his video on Mark Sargent but now you put it like it THIS..... great video Eric 10/10"

To Which I Replied: "Hey, thanks! We've been having a go at Caesar on IFERS as well as he refuses to take down that reverse-psychology video of "calling out Mark Sargent" based on another video of some other guy WHO LOOKS AND SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE HIM claiming they're the same person, and therefore an agent. No Caesar, he's a shill for all the reasons pointed out in this video, not because you put a non-sense video of someone else named Mark Sargent then recommended a bunch of legitimate flat Earth channels subconsciously equating us with such clear non-sense. Why didn't promote all our FE channels in your previous good videos Caesar? Why did you wait until your worst video ever to promote all the other good FE channels?"

Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2015 at 4:06pm
Tele Funken: One thing I noticed early on, was the way Mark speaks. It seems he took oration lessons and memorizes a script, including when to pause, laugh, etc. Of the dozen interviews so far, at least half of them are almost completely identical. I'm relatively new to flat earth but have been around in the conspiracy scene for years and witnessed shillery from Alex Jones for example. Jones of course shills for the Jews by blaming randomly anyone else but Jews. Arabs, globalists, Nazis, Germanic aristocracy, Vatican etc but never the Jews. In reality, most institutions and races are fairly decent as long as the Jews don't infiltrate them. Nowadays, Jewish Supremacy and deception becomes more and more blatant. FreeMasonry is like usury and Communism, Jewish. Holocaust is a complete fraud as well.

Justin Dahl: mark sargent is a goddamn lunatic, and obvious liar. yeah bro, uh, like, the stars and sun and moon are not uh, there man. they're a projection. THIS IS HOW YOU TURN PEOPLE OFF THE TRUTH OF THE FLAT EARTH. goodness if you can't see through this bullshit i feel sorry for you.

Jeff Brown: Good job Eric. As you said before, the fact that he is holding up and spinning a round earth model in his hands whilst machinegun spouting bullshit, is a clever symbolic way of discrediting flat, stationery Earth.

Eric Dubay: Thanks Jeff. His script is obvious: Play with ball Earth while talking non-sense about the flat Earth, say the celestial bodies are "3 dimensional objects" and "holographic projections." Recommend people go to Crow777's disinfo channel, ramble on endlessly about theories and speculations whenever asked for facts, say "what you would do from a game design standpoint" instead of what IS, say what "you prefer." Always talk about "the dome" or "the enclosed system." Insist Admiral Byrd found the dome and go on about "the dome builders." When asked for evidence talk about ancient texts and other obscurities. Laugh about all other conspiracies and constantly talk about how fringe and ridiculous the flat Earth is. Misrepresent Eric Dubay's position whenever possible, condemn him for "causing a rift in the movement" and claim you're Mr. Nice Guy who loves his work and doesn't want any trouble. Say gravity exists and talk about it like a computer game model. Say seasons are based on unknown processes underneath the Earth. Recommend Orlando Ferguson's horribly incorrect/irrelevant concave Earth map whenever possible. Try to sound genuine and make sure to say "you know" every second word to make sure people know.

Dene Moore: Hi Eric. I'm not seeing how you discredited him in your email conversation with him. Every flat earther has a version they present. your proof for various points varies from week to mediocre. Its the nature of this beast. At the moment we have to speculate due do lack of evidence. I think you are missing the points of his response to you and making something out of its that there is not. you need to be careful in regards to this not to discredit your own judgment. this business of trying to expose schills could ironically result in you being discredited if you show yourself to be lacking in judgment. This would cause people to begin doubting everything you present. sadly this is how most react.

Rayn Gryphon: "Weak to mediocre"? How so? To what evidence are you referring? The nature of the animal is evidence and reason, testable evidence and logic. Eric keeps it there from what I can see. Mr. Sargent does not. In his clues videos he supposes that giant smelters make volcanoes in order to keep people from burrowing down into the earth. He calls the dome makers the "builders" and justifies his every theory (in interview anyway) as "what he would do if he was building it" as though it were a video game - as though, "if they could do that they could do anything". I suppose it is a matter of opinion how helpful this is, depending upon whether or not one actually believes the astounding suggestion that "imagination is more important than knowledge" by the man who gave us a theory he himself deplored (and so did Tesla), as did Lorentz his equations later on, equations or mathematical transformations made to make the world look like a spinning ball around the sun. I emailed him several times and could never get a straight answer out of him. In fact, to hear him speak, it is a wonder he is the same person who made the videos. Frankly, I haven't thought seriously about his work since my first viewing of it and I thank God I found the work of Eric Dubay. I would reason that Sargent's Google-backed popularity (something he does not really hide - and anyone who has ever looked up anti-vaccination info and the like knows that Google vets websites) is precisely timed to stem the flow of interest that must invariably gather around authentic evidence and research. That is, Sargent exists, as is, precisely because Eric's book is actually so exceptionally presented. Anyone who would doubt Eric's work (that is, not Eric but his research, since this is about evidence, not personalities for anyone in danger of gaining any sense of reality) was likely never in any danger of learning any more than they already knew or wanted to know. And that, too, is the "nature of the beast". I would suggest you look over Dubay's work a little more if you can call it "weak and mediocre". Given the shitstorm of blind dumb ignorance we have inherited, the man should be given a medal and I am personally emboldened that he is not shying away from calling a spade a spade, not for his own sake but for that of the credible research that I would personally feel proud to call my legacy to my children.

Post by angel on Apr 5, 2015 at 11:24am
These are some of the more recent shilling comments to this video....You can expect a lot more to come, once Max organizes his minions ......you will shocked to see how truly bad the shilling can get. One word that will get passed around a lot it's part of their style is the word EGO...

Eric Erb 8 hours ago ( Tied into Max Malone)
Good lord. Just admit he put together a series of better, more watchable videos in a more concise manner than you guys. The ego and envy in this vid and comments is palpable. The real red flags? Making mocking "XYZ is a shill" videos. Everyone knows anything put out in this area of thought is opinion. Get over it.

Gr8Believer 7 hours ago (Tied into UpNorthOfThe49th= Great friend of Max Malone)
It's obvious that Dubay is jealous of Sargent's sudden rise to fame in just a few weeks. Dubay carries on like it's HIS truth that he discovered and he has sole rites to it. Ego has no place in truth.

don't want a channel 8 hours ago ( No subs/channel/ no google activity......No nothing)=Straight out shill
Really? Homophobic jokes?
Who's the shill again?

Post by Admin on Apr 9, 2015 at 10:58pm
Great job Patricia! He's got the "Mr. Nice Guy" routine down well, but it's clear as day that he's a disinformant.

He said in the last interview and again in this one that "he will never say a bad thing about Eric in an interview." The way he says this over and over it's like he's been told, "maintain the Mr. Nice Guy image at all times, Mark. Never say a bad thing about Eric in an interview," and he's just following orders.

At 6:50 he says someone told him "Eric looks like he might be retracting some of his stuff," which is BS as I've never retracted anything especially with regards to my accusations against Mark. Then he claims to have gone "straight to Eric's YouTube page, went to his discussion page, and I said, look, glad to know that you know we're you know sharing some same points and we don't see eye to eye but you know let's try to move forward and it looked like things were kind of patching up and then..." This is an outright lie and he even confirms it later in the interview when he admits to having NEVER ACTUALLY CONTACTED ME. He claims to have messaged me on my public YouTube discussion page which anyone can see is not true, and claims that I responded back and "it looked like things were kind of patching up!" This is ludicrous as he never messaged me, and we have never had any interaction whatsoever to warrant him saying "it looked like things were patching up."

At 12:50 after being pressed very nicely on the issue of heat/seasons clearly coming from the Sun and not "processes underneath the Earth" as he claims, he says, "The Sun of course generates heat, we all know that!" Flip-Flop! (rofl) He said in the Lisa Harrison interview that the Sun could be a "projection" and "all you would have to do is sync it up with whatever's happening in the sky you know because people automatically are like if the Sun's in this part of the sky it's gonna be a colder time of the year, you just gotta make sure that's consistent and everything's pretty good at that point." So when given free-reign to imagine "how he would build the enclosed system" he talks about the Sun possibly being a projection with some complex heat-projection system bullshit, but when forced to talk sense by Patricia, he just says "of course the Sun generates heat, we all know that!" Yes, we do all know that Mark, that's why your non-sense in other interviews you're retracting now is CLEAR DISINFO.

Post by charliechan on Apr 10, 2015 at 3:50am
THIS is how they do it. This is how Neanderthals/Psychopaths making up 4% of the world's population end up controlling 96% of the rest. They tap into our natural desire for harmony and cooperation and infiltrate with lies. And when we call them on it, we get kumbayaed into silence. This tactic was used in the university systems back in the 1980's. It was called "Political Correctness" and "Multi-Culturalism". If one disagreed with the morality of whatever political theory was presented, one was accused of provincialism and backwardness.

Nowadays we get accused of Anti-Semitism. All for calling it as we see it. For not being "nice". Btw, dictionary archaic definition of "nice" : wanton, foolish, ignorant. It's high time we stopped being so Nice.

History shows once the Neanderthals have tamed us and suppressed our truths, they incite us to war. War as a tool for depopulation. It's time we stop falling for these sophisticated mind control tactics.

Post by tele on Apr 10, 2015 at 6:08am
If there is one thing to learn about all of this, it is being vocal and present is the best way of propaganda (neutral term). This whole debacle now opened the door to more truthseeking people than ever, I think. And for newcomers to flat earth, the arguments in the details don't matter that much and they will dig deeper if they take it seriously as in all other conspiracy type matters.

Mark's last interview is featured on Mami's Shit by Delcroix, who is at least sympathetic to the flat earth model. I don't know if he's 100% flat earther but he posted material in the past. Mami's has its own inner problems but generally, it's a good source of information and mostly posts various Jew-wise radio shows.

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