Hesus Krishna/General Ancient Religious Figures and Myths

Apr 4, 2015 16:51:26 GMT schpankme said:
The correct reference should be to Vishnu, who represents one of the three (trinity) principal denominations of Hinduism.
Vishnu is generally considered to be God, while Krishna is considered his incarnation. Should we say the SUN/SON of God?  You could argue this point till your blue in the face!

The letter  " J "  wasn't in use till about the 12th century, could you provide the name of "Jesus Christ" before that period?

Apr 8, 2015 7:10:16 GMT faithfultotruth said:
YeHoshuWa or YeHoshuWaH, the Father's name (YHWH or YeHoWaH)is in the Son's name. 

Apr 8, 2015 11:57:28 GMT schpankme said:
Make no mistake about it, the old testimony (Talmud) is HINDU in origin. It has been crafted over the centuries
to fit in with the scribe making the changes, with places and names.

HINDUISM = more than 10,000 yrs old
JUDAISM = about 4,000 yrs old
CHRISTIANITY = about 2,000 yrs old
ISLAM = about 1,000 yrs old

Belief in Creation affirms the sacredness of all beings. Religion as read from books affirms that Humanity has 
the right to kill other Beings, and to exploit Creation. The justifications for animal sacrifice, enslavement and 
animism was obviously inserted into the scriptures by PEOPLE interested in wealth, and not in the health of 
humanity or that of other creatures. The Basis of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, all teach slavery, hate and 
the diet of carnivorism; these Sects promote Economics, not Spirituality. 

You cannot obey GOoD and dEVIL at the same time.

The blue God Shiva venerated by mainstream Hindus commands vegetarianism as the diet, compassion for 
animals and does not respect castes or classes. Shiva does not at all fit in with what has become orthodox 
Judaism , Christianity and Islamic religions, or more properly speaking, Sects, which promote animal sacrifice 
as the diet, sickness of the human body, and elitist societies of rich and poor. Elitist societies is the euphemism 
for slavery in one degree or another. Slavery is an institution which is portrayed as acceptable in both the Old 
and New Testaments, and Koran.

Shiva or Sheba, which means seven (7), 'he' is the Lord of the Shabbath (Hebrew) and Sabbath (English). The 
etymology of the word Shabbath or Sabbath is in reference to Shiva, though it is not acknowledged by the 
orthodoxy Jewry. When the relevant names of Shiva are aligned with the Hebrew and English designations of 
the 'seventh day', it is rather easy to see the etymological connection.

Orthodox Judaism contradicts itself with the Jewish Yeshiva, which is a school or academy where one studies 
Judaism. The name Yeshiva is a rather direct reference to Shiva, though this is not acknowledged by the Jewish 
orthodoxy. As can be seen, Shiva is the original deity of Judaism, and the original Jews were Sabeans, that is 
followers of Sabea, Sheba, Seba, all of which are names of Shiva.

Judaism was originally vegetarian and 'creation-centered', the cult that overthrew the vegetarians are 
'human-centered', they teach that humans are superior to all other creatures, instead of being their equals.

Zechariah 11:4-5, “Thus said the Lord my God: Become shepherd of the flock doomed to slaughter. Those who 
buy them slay them and go unpunished; and those who sell them say, "Blessed be the Lord, I have become rich"; 
and their own shepherds have no pity on them.”

In Sirach we see the 'human-centered' cult that became the Orthodox Jews, contrasted with the view of the 
Creator who loves all creation infinitely and who had established a vegetarian covenant.

Sirach 18:13, "The compassion of man is for his neighbor, but the compassion of the Lord is for all living beings."

"the compassion of man is for his neighbor" : human-centered
"the compassion of the Lord is for all living beings" : creation-centered

Apr 8, 2015 18:47:10 GMT faithfultotruth said:
Schpankme, I understand that their have been religions prior to "Christianity". I'm not sure where all that came from out of the Hebrew name for the Father and his son. I was expressing the name of Jesus Christ is also known as Yehoshua or Yehowshuwa ask the question had been asked. 
As a side note, Zechariah 11:4-5 is totally taken out of context. This scripture is the father, our Creator, explaining that there is going to be a great war against those who have risen up against His chosen people. He mentions in the previous chapters of His plan for those who have treated his people with such evil that there will be war. In the above scripture God is pointing out what has been happening to his chosen people. Pagans are taking God's people and selling them, killing them, disregarding them as human, but only as stock. God is angry with what he sees and he is warning that war is coming to the land. Then in the following chapters he talks about the hope that is coming, that is His son, even prophecying through Zechariah how his son will die as the final sacrifice, the final slaughterr for redemption.
I see in our news that Christians are being sold and slaughtered for their blood. People are actually getting rich off of the blood of Christians and no seems to be in an uproar over this massacre of God's creatures. 
There is a lot of hate towards each other in this world and it has been that way from the beginning. Even the Lord's chosen people of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) have continually rebelled against God, and God continues to reach out to them. 
I totally understand your perspective and the beliefs and unbeliefs you have chosen. I enjoy the Flat Earth information I can gather and expound on, but I also have chosen my faith and that is repentance towars God the Father and faith in his son, Jesus Christ or as in hebrew, Yehoshuwa. I can never change your mind or help you to see what I see, because the truth I have chosen, the king james bible, you see as foolishness. that is ok with me. You are responsible for your soul as I am for mine. One day as written in God's Word, we shall all come before him for judgement. Then we will all know the absolute truth. If I am rewarded for this life, amen. If I am punished for this life, so be it. I love all of God's creation and I am far from perfect, but I go to sleep praying for those that are suffering around the world, asking God to have mercy on them and give them a way of escape from where they are in bondage. My heart is broken daily, I can scarcely bare the way the world is today, with such death and destruction. I love seeking the truth in all things. But the only truth I have is the Word of God and this ord will be what God judges me from as he has written in his scriptures. Much of what a lot of you talk about with the history of Christianity is true, written down by those who won the wars. and I do not agree with the Catholic Church, or many of the other christian religions that basically are birthed out of the Catholic Church because of those who disagreed with te teachings. Much has been hidden, but the truth of God is out there. The question is, have we found it?
Take care 

Apr 8, 2015 19:14:17 GMT lizardking said:
Apr 8, 2015 18:47:10 GMT faithfultotruth said:
Schpankme, I understand that their have been religions prior to "Christianity". I'm not sure where all that came from out of the Hebrew name for the Father and his son. I was expressing the name of Jesus Christ is also known as Yehoshua or Yehowshuwa ask the question had been asked. 
As a side note, Zechariah 11:4-5 is totally taken out of context. This scripture is the father, our Creator, explaining that there is going to be a great war against those who have risen up against His chosen people. He mentions in the previous chapters of His plan for those who have treated his people with such evil that there will be war. In the above scripture God is pointing out what has been happening to his chosen people. Pagans are taking God's people and selling them, killing them, disregarding them as human, but only as stock. God is angry with what he sees and he is warning that war is coming to the land. Then in the following chapters he talks about the hope that is coming, that is His son, even prophecying through Zechariah how his son will die as the final sacrifice, the final slaughterr for redemption.
I see in our news that Christians are being sold and slaughtered for their blood. People are actually getting rich off of the blood of Christians and no seems to be in an uproar over this massacre of God's creatures. 
There is a lot of hate towards each other in this world and it has been that way from the beginning. Even the Lord's chosen people of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) have continually rebelled against God, and God continues to reach out to them. 
I totally understand your perspective and the beliefs and unbeliefs you have chosen. I enjoy the Flat Earth information I can gather and expound on, but I also have chosen my faith and that is repentance towars God the Father and faith in his son, Jesus Christ or as in hebrew, Yehoshuwa. I can never change your mind or help you to see what I see, because the truth I have chosen, the king james bible, you see as foolishness. that is ok with me. You are responsible for your soul as I am for mine. One day as written in God's Word, we shall all come before him for judgement. Then we will all know the absolute truth. If I am rewarded for this life, amen. If I am punished for this life, so be it. I love all of God's creation and I am far from perfect, but I go to sleep praying for those that are suffering around the world, asking God to have mercy on them and give them a way of escape from where they are in bondage. My heart is broken daily, I can scarcely bare the way the world is today, with such death and destruction. I love seeking the truth in all things. But the only truth I have is the Word of God and this ord will be what God judges me from as he has written in his scriptures. Much of what a lot of you talk about with the history of Christianity is true, written down by those who won the wars. and I do not agree with the Catholic Church, or many of the other christian religions that basically are birthed out of the Catholic Church because of those who disagreed with te teachings. Much has been hidden, but the truth of God is out there. The question is, have we found it?
Take care 



The King James Bible? Really?

If you care about seeking the truth then don't be scared to abandon God's "word" (which God has a chosen people?) which is really just the collection and corruption of old Pagan fables--the same Pagans that you apparently don't consider to be God's people.

Apr 8, 2015 19:49:31 GMT faithfultotruth said:
Lizardking, all is relative. Because our views are different doesn't mean I'm right and your wrong or visa versa. I have my path and you have yours. Like I mentioned earlier, my beliefs can be seen as foolishness as other's beliefs can seem that way to me. I don't know if I am capable to express 40 years of life with Almighty God, but He has never failed me, he has always been faithful to me and what more can I say. I love Him and what He has taught me in His Word with the help of His Holy Spirit has been incredible. I have studied out other beliefs, many actually, and I find them unrewarding and empty. That is my perspective of them, but you may see things differently. I am not here on this forum to convince anyone to change their belief system to anything other than where they are today. If the Holy Spirit calls you to study the Word, go study. I am just a creation of the Almighty who has received His truths gladly and they have served my life well. I'm very content where I am. I know the chatter on the King James bible, but it is what I have and I have studied it throughly. There are no errors, the Word of God explains itself and that is always what I rely on. Years ago, I fell in the trap of proving the bible to others, my sweat and time was spent in giving the answers,while the nay sayer reaped the rewards of the answer without sweat and time. I know the answers are there, because I've already been there, done that. When truth seekers are sincere about truth, they will spend their time and sweat rather than others. Like many of you do on this forum. That is what impressed me to stay. The road of truth is dangerous and we could all possibly loose our earthly lives over it, but there is one Creator of all and it must grieve Him to see his creation waring and snuffing out life which he gave to each of us. Loving us, having patience despite our ignorance. He is an amazing Creator. I can't wait to someday meet Him, until then, I can only be faithful to what He has given to me to live my life as Holy as he has asked. Which I fall short everyday of my life. 

Apr 8, 2015 18:47:10 GMT faithfultotruth said:
As a side note, Zechariah 11:4-5 is totally taken out of context.

Apr 8, 2015 22:03:10 GMT schpankme said:
Apr 8, 2015 18:47:10 GMT faithfultotruth said:
As a side note, Zechariah 11:4-5 is totally taken out of context.


Zechariah 11:1-6
Thus says the Lord my God, “Pasture the flock doomed to slaughter. Those who buy them slay them and go 
unpunished, and each of those who sell them says, ‘Blessed be the Lord, for I have become rich!’ And their 
own shepherds have no pity on them. 

For I will no longer have pity on the inhabitants of the land,” declares the Lord; “but behold, I will cause the 
men to fall, each into another’s power and into the power of his king; and they will strike the land, and I will 
not deliver them from their power.”

The passage is very specific, it first uses an example of the mindless Shepherd, who like AbEL (AbnormEL), 
killed the Animals instead of protecting them, so to be granted favors by Gods, or as is this example; "to 
become rich!"

You skipped over the part where it shows that the Bible is copied from other Religions:

Judaism contradicts itself with the Yeshiva, which is a school where one studies Judaism. The name Yeshiva 
is a direct reference to Shiva, which is the original deity of Judaism, and the original Jews were Sabeans, 
that is followers of Sabea, Sheba, Seba, all of which are names of Shiva.

Whatever name you apply to Jesus, is immaterial, the Bible is a known forgery, which is human-centric; 
teaching, slavery, hate and the diet of carnivorism.

"Christianity is an adaptation of Mithraism welded with the Druidic principles of the Culdees, some Egyptian 
elements (the pre-Christian Book of Revelation was originally called The Mysteries of Osiris and Isis), Greek 
philosophy and various aspects of Hinduism."

Apr 9, 2015 2:10:30 GMT schpankme said:
How did the Jews get the Yeshiva?

How did Christianity get affiliated with Judaism (Jew)?

You do understand that "Jew" has always been a Religion, and not a race of people?

Apr 9, 2015 2:44:12 GMT faithfultotruth said:
I have no knowledge about the "Yeshiva".
 I'm not a jewish person.
Christianity and my faith are not the same.

Apr 9, 2015 2:54:52 GMT schpankme said:
Apr 9, 2015 2:44:12 GMT faithfultotruth said:
I have no knowledge about the "Yeshiva".
 I'm not a jewish person.
Christianity and my faith are not the same.


Yes, Jew or Judaism has always been a Religion.

Jusdism is about 4,000 years old and is a direct copy of Hinduism, converted to Carnivorism.  GOT KOSHER?

You worship a book, which is made up of the Torah (Old Testimony), which makes you a practicing JEW, and HINDU.

Which one of the 33000, 501 (C) (3) Corporate Religions, do you claim to Worship?

Apr 9, 2015 4:18:33 GMT Admin said:
And what makes you so sure that "Jesus Christ," the 17th crucified savior god-man, was the real one who, "died on the cross by shedding his blood (blood atonement) for all my sins, past, present and future." The same has been said, long before Christianity, in the myths of Mithra, Dionysus, Attis, Horus, and many other "pagan" god-men:

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GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion over fish, birds, cattle, and all wild animals, yet--
GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able to tell good from evil, right from wrong.

GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)

GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
(Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience as well as with the fact that God allegedly does not change his mind: NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.)

GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.

GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.

GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.

GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.

GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.

GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken, and are taken, aboard the Ark.

GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).

GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.

GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.

GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.

GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting.
GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.

GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession."
GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled.

GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring.
2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."

GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine."
DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine.
PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart.
JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine."
JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine.
RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine.

GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.

GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.

GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem bought from the sons of Hamor.

EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.

EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.

EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.

EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God.

EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time.

EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry.
RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love and peace.

EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).

EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever.
EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images.

EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins.
DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.

EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a fire. The commandment is permanent, and death is required for infractions.
MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath).
RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary, and to decide for yourself regarding its observance.

EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10, 10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. It is reinforced by Jesus.
MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families; that a man's foes will be those of his own household; that you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even your own life to be a disciple.
MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father.

EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO 13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and killing.
EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders killing.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters 185,000 men.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many more examples.)

EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."

EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies.

EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.
NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many other examples of the killing of innocents.)

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception.

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

EX 34:6-7, JS 24:19, 1CH 16:34 God is faithful, holy and good.
IS 45:6-7, AM 3:6 God is responsible for evil.

EX 34:6-7, HE 9:27 God remembers sin, even when it has been forgiven.
JE 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven.

LE 3:17 God himself prohibits forever the eating of blood and fat.
MT 15:11, CN 2:20-22 Jesus and Paul say that such rules don't matter--they are only human injunctions.

LE 19:18, MT 22:39 Love your neighbor [as much as] yourself.
1CO 10:24 Put your neighbor ahead of yourself.

LE 21:10 The chief priest is not to rend his clothes.
MT 26:65, MK 14:63 He does so during the trial of Jesus.

LE 25:37, PS 15:1, 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest.
MT 25:27, LK 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest.

NU 11:33 God inflicts sickness.
JB 2:7 Satan inflicts sickness.

NU 15:24-28 Sacrifices can, in at least some case, take away sin.
HE 10:11 They never take away sin.

NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

NU 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths).
MT 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so, saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil).

NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera.

NU 33:41-42 After Aaron's death, the Israelites journeyed from Mt. Hor, to Zalmonah, to Punon, etc.
DT 10:6-7 It was from Mosera, to Gudgodah, to Jotbath.

DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21 God is sometimes angry.
MT 5:22 Anger is a sin.

DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.

DT 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Death is required.
EZ 14:9 A prophet who is deceived, is deceived by God himself. Death is still required.

DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
IS 56:4-5 Some castrates will receive special rewards.

DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
MT 19:12 Men are encouraged to consider making themselves castrates for the sake of the Kingdom of God.

DT 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.
MK 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit adultery.

DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.

DT 30:11-20 It is possible to keep the law.
RO 3:20-23 It is not possible to keep the law.

JS 11:20 God shows no mercy to some.
LK 6:36, JA 5:11 God is merciful.

JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

JS 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir.
JG 1:11-15 It was Othniel, who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter, Achsah.

1SA 8:2-22 Samuel informs God as to what he has heard from others.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees and hears everything.

1SA 9:15-17 The Lord tells Samuel that Saul has been chosen to lead the Israelites and will save them from the Philistines.
1SA 15:35 The Lord is sorry that he has chosen Saul.
1SA 31:4-7 Saul commits suicide and the Israelites are overrun by the Philistines.

1SA 15:7-8, 20 The Amalekites are utterly destroyed.
1SA 27:8-9 They are utterly destroyed (again?).
1SA 30:1, 17-18 They raid Ziklag and David smites them (again?).

1SA 16:10-11, 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David, or eight total.
1CH 2:13-15 He had seven total.

1SA 16:19-23 Saul knew David well before the latter's encounter with Goliath.
1SA 17:55-58 Saul did not know David at the time of his encounter with Goliath and had to ask about David's identity.

1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath with a slingshot.
1SA 17:51 David killed Goliath (again?) with a sword.

1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath.
2SA 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath. (Note: Some translations insert the words "the brother of" before Elhanan. These are an addition to the earliest manuscripts in an apparent attempt to rectify this inconsistency.)

1SA 21:1-6 Ahimalech was high priest when David ate the bread.
MK 2:26 Abiathar was high priest at the time.

1SA 28:6 Saul inquired of the Lord, but received no answer.
1CH 10:13-14 Saul died for not inquiring of the Lord.

1SA 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.
2SA 1:2-10 Saul, at his own request, was slain by an Amalekite.
2SA 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa.
1CH 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God.

2SA 6:23 Michal was childless.
2SA 21:8 (KJV) She had five sons.

2SA 24:1 The Lord inspired David to take the census.
1CH 21:1 Satan inspired the census.

2SA 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000.
1CH 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000.

2SA 24:10-17 David sinned in taking the census.
1KI 15:5 David's only sin (ever) was in regard to another matter.

2SA 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a property.
1CH 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold.

1KI 3:12 God made Solomon the wisest man that ever lived, yet ....
1KI 11:1-13 Solomon loved many foreign women (against God's explicit prohibition) who turned him to other gods (for which he deserved death).

1KI 3:12, 4:29, 10:23-24, 2CH 9:22-23 God made Solomon the wisest king and the wisest man that ever lived. There never has been nor will be another like him.
MT 12:42, LK 11:31 Jesus says: "... now one greater than Solomon is here."

1KI 4:26 Solomon had 40,000 horses (or stalls for horses).
2CH 9:25 He had 4,000 horses (or stalls for horses).

1KI 5:16 Solomon had 3,300 supervisors.
2CH 2:2 He had 3,600 supervisors.

1KI 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high.
2CH 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high.

1KI 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons).
2CH 4:5 It held 3000 "baths."

1KI 8:12, 2CH 6:1, PS 18:11 God dwells in thick darkness.
1TI 6:16 God dwells in unapproachable light.

1KI 8:13, AC 7:47 Solomon, whom God made the wisest man ever, built his temple as an abode for God.
AC 7:48-49 God does not dwell in temples built by men.

1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

1KI 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places.
2CH 14:2-3 He did remove them.

1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

1KI 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years.
1KI 16:28-29 Omri died, and his son Ahab became king in the thirty- eighth year of Asa's reign. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years.)

1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, 2TH 2:11 God himself causes a lying spirit.
PR 12:22 God abhors lying lips and delights in honesty.

1KI 22:42-43 Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places.
2CH 17:5-6 He did remove them.

2KI 2:11 Elijah went up to heaven.
JN 3:13 Only the Son of Man (Jesus) has ever ascended to heaven.
2CO 12:2-4 An unnamed man, known to Paul, went up to heaven and came back.
HE 11:5 Enoch was translated to heaven.

2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

2KI 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign.
2CH 22:2 He was 42 when he began his reign.
[Note: Some translations use "twenty-two" here in an attempt to rectify this discrepancy. The Hebrew is clear, however, that 2CH 22:2 is 42. The Hebrew words involved are Strong's H705 and H8147, "forty" and "two," respectively.]

2KI 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there.
2CH 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and put to death.

2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) was eighteen years old when he began to reign.
2CH 36:9 He was eight.
(Note: This discrepancy has been "corrected" in some versions.)

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months.
2CH 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days.

2KI 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle.
2CH 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother.

1CH 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram, Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah, Azariah, Jotham.
MT 1:8-9 It is: Joram, Uzziah, Jotham, etc.

1CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.

2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 There is no injustice or partiality with the Lord.
RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on (and hardens the hearts of) whom he pleases.

ER 2:3-64 (Gives the whole congregation as 42,360 while the actual sum of the numbers is about 30,000.)

JB 2:3-6, 21:7-13, 2TI 3:12 The godly are persecuted and chastised but the wicked grow old, wealthy, and powerful, unchastised by God.
PS 55:23, 92:12-14, PR 10:2-3, 27-31, 12:2, 21 The lives of the wicked are cut short. The righteous flourish and obtain favor from the Lord.

PS 10:1 God cannot be found in time of need. He is "far off."
PS 145:18 God is near to all who call upon him in truth.

PS 22:1-2 God sometimes forsakes his children. He does not answer.
PS 46:1 God is a refuge, a strength, a very present help.

PS 30:5, JE 3:12, MI 7:18 God's anger does not last forever.
JE 17:4, MT 25:46 It does last forever. (He has provided for eternal punishment.)

PS 58:10-11 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance.
PR 24:16-18 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles.

PS 78:69, EC 1:4, 3:14 The earth was established forever.
PS 102:25-26, MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33, HE 1:10-11, 2PE 3:10 The earth will someday perish.

PR 3:13, 4:7, 19:8, JA 1:5 Happy is the man who finds wisdom. Get wisdom.
LK 2:40, 52 Jesus was filled with wisdom and found favor with God.
1CO 1:19-25, 3:18-20 Wisdom is foolishness.

PR 12:2, RO 8:28 A good man obtains favor from the Lord.
2TI 3:12, HE 12:6 The godly will be persecuted.

PR 14:8 The wisdom of a prudent man is to discern his way.
MT 6:25-34 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you.

PR 14:15-18 The simple believe everything and acquire folly; the prudent look where they are going and are crowned with knowledge.
MT 18:3, LK 18:17 You must believe as little children do.
1CO 1:20, 27 God has made the wisdom of the world foolish so as to shame the wise.
PR 16:4 God made the wicked for the "day of evil."
MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 God and Jesus hide some things from some people.
JN 6:65 No one can come to Jesus unless it is granted by God.
RO 8:28-30 Some are predestined to be called to God, believe in Jesus, and be justified.
RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on, and hardens the hearts of, whom he pleases.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked so as to be able to condemn them.
1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 [Yet] God wants all to be saved.

PR 8:13, 16:6 It is the fear of God that keeps men from evil.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. Perfect love drives out fear.
1JN 5:2, 2JN 1:6 Those who love God keep his commandments.

PR 26:4 Do not answer a fool. To do so makes you foolish too.
PR 26:5 Answer a fool. If you don't, he will think himself wise.

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
JE 8:8 The scribes falsify the word of God.
JE 20:7, EZ 14:9, 2TH 2:11-12 God himself deceives people.
(Note: Some versions translate deceive as "persuade." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)



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