The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

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SUN OVERHEAD - Look at Cloud Shadows

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Sun remains the same?

Post by Charliesoft on Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:50 am

I am having trouble getting to grips with this:
when the sun is in rotation over the tropic of cancer in June, how come temperatures in europe/north america/russia are far lower than equatorial ones, even though the sun is closer to these regions by 500km?And how can one explain the much greater range in temp in the northerly regions, but a much shorter range in the tropics, even in June?It doesn't make sense.
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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Charliesoft on Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:56 am

I would also like some guidance on this:
when the sun is over the tropic of Capricorn, it is overhead such places as Argentina, sydney Australia and so on. the TOCapricorn is 5903 miles from Worthing, England(where I live),yet 3000 miles above the earth at Sydney,Australia; making the (hypothenuse) distance from worthing to the sun 6622 miles. How can the sun be the same size in the sky when viewed from over twice the distance?
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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Charliesoft on Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:57 am

sorry, in above post i meant the sun is 3000 miles above the tropic of capricorn.

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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by RickFE on Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:23 pm

Charliesoft wrote:I would also like some guidance on this:
when the sun is over the tropic of Capricorn, it is overhead such places as Argentina, sydney Australia and so on. the TOCapricorn is 5903 miles from Worthing, England(where I live),yet 3000 miles above the earth at Sydney,Australia; making the (hypothenuse) distance from worthing to the sun 6622 miles. How can the sun be the same size in the sky when viewed from over twice the distance?
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The sun is the same size no matter where you live. It doesn't change sizes, your perspective and distance to it changes. I live in Northern Canada, and the sun is not the same in winter as it is in summer. Also look into the Capricorn tropic and the summer in the southern hemisphere. It gets to 26C during the day, but drops to 9C at night in summer. This contradicts the globe model as we do not experience these drastic summer temperatures in the northern summer. This is because of the larger path the sun takes on the Capricorn. It is farther away hence its heat dissipates until its return. You are also going on theory. We do not know exactly how high or big the sun is. There are estimates, but do not use these to try to determine how the sun works.
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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Charliesoft on Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:18 am

Dear Rick, thanks for your reply. It has helped me gain more confidence with what I read, actually a quote from either Rowbotham or Winship's book, that light shining through a dense medium gains apparent size, see how the light from a gas lamp appears larger through a foggy haze. It's a fact. And also, thanks very much for the heads-up about checking out southern temperatures - I'll do that, it's interesting.
However, perhaps you could "shed some light" Very Happy (sorry) on my still-perplexing problem that northerly regions experience lower temps even when the sun is actually closer to them (as shown by up to 500km in some cases); like in June, than the equatorial regions, when the sun is rotaing on the circle of the TOCancer?Granted, the TOCancer goes directly overhead regions like north Africa, Arabia and North Mexico/Arizona, where is IS very hot; but my right-brained approach cannot see how England for example, has lower temps. It's closer to the TOCancer than Bali!(where I live now). I know that sunlight shining from directly overhead is more intense than from an angle. This still won't answer my problem. Sorry if this bugs you out a bit. Regards.
Thanks in advance, really hope you can help.
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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Expandedthinker on Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:01 am

Anyone can look at the sun with a welding helmet and see it is massive, and a shocker to most as they think it would be smaller and not equal in size of the moon. I recently seen a video of a high altitude balloon "almost touching the sun." And in the comments box someone stated the earth's horizon was above the sun. This would be a MAJOR proof but it would require another balloon launch WITH a shader on the lens to remove the glare and shine of the sun. This way we could see the exact size below the horizon!!!!! There is also a cool trick when the camera rotates away from the light source and you can see the mirror image of said light source without the glare. This can be tried at home with any camera and in the balloon video you can see the sun shape yet would still be confused and turned down as evidence to those soon to be believers. I hope this idea reaches videos soon!!!

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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Whatshappening on Tue May 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Hello! First post here. Coming from a different angle the 3000 miles high figure bothers me. I am from Sweden and while the sun barely sets in summer, it does set, and from what I can approximately calculate by taking the Stockholm-Capetown distance as a comparison, Stockholm to the tropic of cancer is only about 6000-6500 miles away. This would mean an angle of about 22,5 degrees to the sun, but it still setting, so from this I feel the sun would need to be substantially lower than 3000 miles in order to be able to set. I have to admit I didn't read all the posts in this thread, and didn't immerse myself completely in what I did read to ascertain whether those calculations are flawless, but perhaps there is something to be revisited, or am I making a mistake here with my line of thought? Thanks and looking forward to participate in the forum here!!

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The Triangle of the Gleason Map

Post by Just Vital on Mon May 08, 2017 11:35 am

I found this short but interesting video about the triangle of the Gleason Map, and how it leads us to the distances of the moon and the sun on the GE. Coincidence...? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-zXGdwfoo&spfreload=10





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Re: The Size And Distance Of The Sun/Moon

Post by Schpankme on Mon May 08, 2017 12:03 pm

The Sun and Moon are LESS than 4000 miles above sea-level.

Measuring Sun ~ Steve Torrence
Sun speed according to timeanddate.com on January 1, 2017 UTC 15:16 was 955.6 miles / hour.
Sun was at 90/90 zenith which only happens 2 times a year at my location.
  Sun took 2 minutes 50 seconds to travel it's diameter
  2 min 50 sec = 0.0472 hours x 955.6 miles/hour = 45.125 mile diameter.

Note the aura around the Sun makes it difficult to get an accurate measurement of the Sun's outline.




SUN setting off the Island of Phuket
Note:
  Sun reducing in size as it moves further away from the observer.
  Sun moves off to the right as it circles above the Flat Earth.
  Sun of man walks on water from the horizon to the observer.

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