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In the Flat-Earth model of the cosmos, the North Pole is the immovable center of the world and the entire universe. Polaris, the North Star, sits straight over the North Pole at the highest point in the heavens, and like a slowly rotating planetarium dome all the celestial bodies revolve around Polaris and over the Earth once per day. The Sun circles over and around the circumference of Earth every 24 hours, steadily traveling each day from the equator during the March vernal equinox, up to the Tropic of Cancer at the June summer solstice, back down to the equator for the September autumnal equinox, and all the way down to the Tropic of Capricorn on the December winter solstice.



In the Flat-Earth model, the South Pole does not exist at all and Antarctica is instead a gigantic ice-wall extending the circumference of Earth holding in the oceans like a giant bowl, or a “world cup.” As strange as this concept may sound at first, it is a fact that if you set a bearing due South from anywhere on Earth, inevitably at or before 78 degrees Southern latitude, you will find yourself face-to-face with an enormous ice-wall towering 100-200 feet in the air extending to the East and West the entire circumference of the world!



“The ice-barrier, so frequently referred to in accounts of the Antarctic regions, is the fore-front of the enormous glacier-covering, or ice-cap, which, accumulating in vast, undulating fields from the heavy snowfall, and ultimately attaining hundreds, if not thousands, of feet in thickness, creeps from the continent of Antarctica into the polar sea. The ice-barrier, yet a part of the parent ice-cap, presents itself to the navigator who has boldness enough to approach its fearful front, as a solid, perpendicular wall of marble-like ice, ranging from one thousand to two thousand feet in thickness, of which from one hundred to two hundred feet rises above, and from eight hundred to eighteen hundred feet sinks below, the level of the sea." -Greely, General A. W. "Antarctica, or the Hypothetical Southern Continent." Cosmopolitan 17 (1894): p. 296



“It has been demonstrated that the earth is a plane, the surface-centre of which is immediately underneath the star called ‘Polaris,’ and the extremities of which are bounded by a vast region of ice and water and irregular masses of land. The whole terminates in fog and darkness, where snow and driving hail, piercing sleet and boisterous winds, howling storms, madly-mounting waves, and clashing icebergs are almost constant.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (117)



Antarctica is not the tiny “ice-continent” found confined to the underside antipode of astronomer’s globes. Quite the contrary, Antarctica literally surrounds us 360 degrees, encircles every continent, and acts as a barrier holding in the oceans. The most commonly asked questions, and the greatest mysteries yet to be solved are: how far does the Antarctic ice extend outwards? Is there a limit? What lies beyond, or is it just snow and ice forever? Thanks to U.N. treaties and constant military surveillance, the North Pole and Antarctica remain cloaked in government secrecy, both purported “no-fly/no-sail” zones, with several reports of civilian pilots and captains being shooed away and escorted back under threat of violence.



“How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction ‘human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice,’ extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (91)

Before reaching the Antarctic ice-wall, navigating the increasingly tumultuous Southern oceans, explorers encounter the longest, darkest, coldest nights and the most dangerous seas and storms anywhere on Earth. Vasco de Gama, an early 16th century Portuguese explorer of the South Seas wrote how, “The waves rise like mountains in height; ships are heaved up to the clouds, and apparently precipitated by circling whirlpools to the bed of the ocean. The winds are piercing cold, and so boisterous that the pilot’s voice can seldom be heard, whilst a dismal and almost continual darkness adds greatly to the danger.”



In 1773 Captain Cook became the first modern explorer known to have breached the Antarctic Circle and reached the ice barrier. During three voyages, lasting three years and eight days, Captain Cook and crew sailed a total of 60,000 miles along the Antarctic coastline never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall! Captain Cook wrote: “The ice extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height. It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the pole, or perhaps joins some land to which it has been fixed since creation.”



On October 5th, 1839 another explorer, James Clark Ross began a series of Antarctic voyages lasting a total of 4 years and 5 months. Ross and his crew sailed two heavily armored warships thousands of miles, losing many men from hurricanes and icebergs, looking for an entry point beyond the southern glacial wall. Upon first confronting the massive barrier Captain Ross wrote of the wall, “extending from its eastern extreme point as far as the eye could discern to the eastward. It presented an extraordinary appearance, gradually increasing in height, as we got nearer to it, and proving at length to be a perpendicular cliff of ice, between one hundred and fifty feet and two hundred feet above the level of the sea, perfectly flat and level at the top, and without any fissures or promontories on its even seaward face. We might with equal chance of success try to sail through the cliffs of Dover, as to penetrate such a mass.”



“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)



“If we now consider the fact that when we travel by land or sea, and from any part of the known world, in a direction towards the North polar star, we shall arrive at one and the same point, we are forced to the conclusion that what has hitherto been called the North Polar region, is really the center of the Earth. That from this northern center the land diverges and stretches out, of necessity, towards a circumference, which must now be called the Southern region: which is a vast circle, and not a pole or center … In this and other ways all the great navigators have been frustrated in their efforts, and have been more or less confounded in their attempts to sail round the Earth upon or beyond the Antarctic circle. But if the southern region is a pole or center, like the north, there would be little difficulty in circumnavigating it, for the distance round would be comparatively small. When it is seen that the Earth is not a sphere, but a plane, having only one center, the north; and that the south is the vast icy boundary of the world, the difficulties experienced by circumnavigators can be easily understood.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (21-23)



If the Earth were truly a globe, then every line of latitude South of the equator would have to measure a gradually smaller and smaller circumference the farther South traveled. In other words, the circumference at 10 degrees South latitude would comprise a smaller circle than at the equator, 20 degrees South latitude would comprise a circle smaller than 10, and so on. If, however, the Earth is an extended plane, then every line of latitude South of the equator should measure a gradually larger and larger circumference the farther South traveled. 10 degrees South latitude will comprise a larger circle than the equator, 20 degrees South latitude will comprise a circle larger than 10, and so on. Likewise, if the Earth were a globe, lines of longitude would bubble out at the equator while converging at both poles. Whereas if the Earth is an extended plane, lines of longitude should simply expand straight outwards from the North Pole. So which is actually the case?



“Upon the principle, as taught by Scripture and common observation, that the world is not a Planet, but consists of vast masses of land stretched out upon level seas, the North being the centre of the system, it is evident that the degrees of longitude will gradually increase in width the whole way from the North centre to the icy boundary of the great Southern Circumference. In consequence of the difference between the actual extent of longitudes and that allowed for them by the Nautical Authorities, which difference, at the latitude of the Cape of Good Hope, has been estimated to amount to a great number of miles, many Ship-masters have lost their reckoning, and many vessels have been wrecked. Ship-captains, who have been educated in the globular theory, know not how to account for their getting so much out of their course in Southern latitudes, and generally put it down to currents; but this reason is futile, for although currents may exist, they do not usually run in opposite directions, and vessels are frequently wrecked, whether sailing East or West.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (102)



During Captain James Clark Ross’s voyages around the Antarctic circumference, he often wrote in his journal perplexed at how they routinely found themselves out of accordance with their charts, stating that they found themselves an average of 12-16 miles outside their reckoning every day, some days as much as 29 miles. Lieutenant Charles Wilkes commanded a United States Navy exploration expedition to the Antarctic from August 18th, 1838 to June 10th, 1842, almost four years spent “exploring and surveying the Southern ocean.” In his journals Lieutenant Wilkes also mentioned being consistently east of his reckoning, sometimes over 20 miles in less than 18 hours.



“The commanders of these various expeditions were, of course, with their education and belief in the earth's rotundity, unable to conceive of any other cause for the differences between log and chronometer results than the existence of currents. But one simple fact is entirely fatal to such an explanation, viz., that when the route taken is east or west the same results are experienced. The water of the southern region cannot be running in two opposite directions at the same time; and hence, although various local and variable currents have been noticed, they cannot be shown to be the cause of the discrepancies so generally observed in high southern latitudes between time and log results. The conclusion is one of necessity, forced upon us by the sum of the evidence collected that the degrees of longitude in any given southern latitude are larger than the degrees in any latitude nearer to the northern center; thus proving the already more than sufficiently demonstrated fact that the earth is a plane, having a northern center, in relation to which degrees of latitude are concentric, and from which degrees of longitude are diverging lines, continually increasing in their distance from each other as they are prolonged towards the great glacial southern circumference.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe!” (261)



“February 11th, 1822, at noon, in latitude 65.53. S. our chronometers gave 44 miles more westing than the log in three days. On 22nd of April (1822), in latitude 54.16. S. our longitude by chronometers was 46.49, and by D.R. (dead reckoning) 47° 11´: On 2nd May (1822), at noon, in latitude 53.46. S., our longitude by chronometers was 59° 27´, and by D.R. 61° 6´. October 14th, in latitude 58.6, longitude by chronometers 62° 46´, by account 65° 24´. In latitude 59.7. S., longitude by chronometers was 63° 28´, by account 66° 42´. In latitude 61.49. S., longitude by chronometers was 61° 53´, by account 66° 38´.” -Captain James Weddell, “Voyages Towards the South Pole”



“In the southern hemisphere, navigators to India have often fancied themselves east of the Cape when still west, and have been driven ashore on the African coast, which, according to their reckoning, lay behind them. This misfortune happened to a fine frigate, the Challenger, in 1845. How came Her Majesty’s Ship ‘Conqueror,’ to be lost? How have so many other noble vessels, perfectly sound, perfectly manned, perfectly navigated, been wrecked in calm weather, not only in dark night, or in a fog, but in broad daylight and sunshine - in the former case upon the coasts, in the latter, upon sunken rocks - from being ‘out of reckoning,’ under circumstances which until now, have baffled every satisfactory explanation.” -Rev. Thomas Milner, “Tour Through Creation”

The equatorial circumference of the supposed ball-Earth is said to be 24,900 statute or 21,600 nautical miles. A nautical mile is the distance, following the supposed curvature of the Earth, from one minute of latitude to the next. A statue mile is the straight line distance between the two, not taking into account Earth’s alleged curvature.



The “Australian Handbook, Almanack, Shippers’ and Importers’ Directory” states that the distance between Sydney and Nelson is 1400 nautical or 1633 statute miles. Allowing a more than sufficient 83 miles as the distance for rounding Cape Farewell and sailing up Tasman Bay to Nelson leaves 1550 statute miles as the straight-line distance from the meridian of Sydney to the meridian of Nelson. Their given difference in longitude is 22 degrees 2’14”. Therefore if 22 degrees 2’14” out of 360 is 1550 miles, the entirety measures 25,182 miles. This is larger than the Earth is said to be at the equator, and 4262 miles greater than it would be at Sydney’s southern latitude on a globe of said proportions! One 360th part of 25,182 gives 70 miles as the distance between each degree of longitude at Sydney’s 34 degree Southern latitude. On a globe 25,000 miles in equatorial circumference, however, degrees of longitude at 34 degrees latitude would be only 58 miles, a full 12 miles per degree less than reality. This perfectly explains why Ross and other navigators in the deep South experienced 12+ mile daily discrepancies between their reckoning and reality, the farther South traveled the farther the divide.



“From near Cape Horn, Chile to Port Philip in Melbourne, Australia the distance is 9,000 miles. These two places are 143 degrees of longitude from each other. Therefore the whole extent of the Earth’s circumference is a mere arithmetical question. If 143 degrees make 9,000 miles, what will be the distance made by the whole 360 degrees into which the surface is divided? The answer is, 22,657 miles; or, 8357 miles more than the theory of rotundity would permit. It must be borne in mind, however, that the above distances are nautical measure, which, reduced to statute miles, gives the actual distance round the Southern region at a given latitude as 26,433 statute miles; or nearly 1,500 miles more than the largest circumference ever assigned to the Earth at the equator.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (52)

Similar calculations made from the Cape of Good Hope, South Africa to Melbourne, Australia at an average latitude of 35.5 degrees South, have given an approximate figure of over 25,000 miles, which is again equal to or greater than the Earth’s supposed greatest circumference at the equator. Calculations from Sydney, Australia to Wellington, New Zealand at an average of 37.5 degrees South have given an approximate circumference of 25,500 miles, greater still! According to the ball-Earth theory, the circumference of the Earth at 37.5 degrees Southern latitude should be only 19,757 statute miles, almost six thousand miles less than such practical measurements.



“The above calculations are, as already stated, only proximate; but as liberal allowances have been made for irregularities of route, etc., they are sufficiently accurate to prove that the degrees of longitude, as we proceed south-wards, do not diminish, as they would upon a globe, but expand or increase, as they must if the earth is a plane; or, in other words, the farthest point, or greatest latitude south, must have the greatest circumference and degrees of longitude.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe!” (258)

“Parallels of latitude only - of all imaginary lines on the surface of the Earth - are circles, which increase, progressively, from the northern centre to the southern circumference. The mariner's course in the direction of any one of these concentric circles is his longitude, the degrees of which INCREASE to such an extent beyond the equator (going southwards) that hundreds of vessels have been wrecked because of the false idea created by the untruthfulness of the charts and the globular theory together, causing the sailor to be continually getting out of his reckoning. With a map of the Earth in its true form all difficulty is done away with, and ships may be conducted anywhere with perfect safety. This, then, is a very important practical proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (14)

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:15 pm

Posted by Admin on 06/13/2015




There is much more important information about the non-existence of the South Pole starting at 36:00 in the above podcast as well.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:17 pm

Posted by csp on 07/11/2015
Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but found this 2003 USGS south pole marker:



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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:17 pm

Posted by rebecca on 07/11/2015
Nice find Csp. And the yin yang symbol appears again. Hints in plain sight once more!

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:18 pm

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The Earth could be like a ring magnet above found in loudspeakers with the North pole being in the very center and the opposite pole being every point along the outer circumference. This kind of magnet actually exists while the kind of magnet they claim the Earth to be doesn't even exist. They say the molten magnetic core causes N/S poles to exist on opposite ends of the ball Earth, and slowly but constantly shift due to the moving molten core, but there is no such "ball magnet" that actually works this way, and they have only ever drilled 8 miles down and so have no idea if Earth has their hypothetical molten magnetic core anyway. I explain it more at 46:40 here:







Also, magnetite draws a compass needle towards it - no "Pole" necessary. So there isn't necessarily a "South Pole" somewhere as you said. There very well may be a huge mountain of magnetite at the magnetic "North Pole" and that is what causes the magnetism of Earth. Many mountains including Mt. Olympus in Greece have proven to be magnetic enough to pull neutral cars backwards up the mountain!

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:19 pm

Posted by cropirate on 07/17/2015
"They say the molten magnetic core causes N/S poles to exist on opposite ends of the ball Earth, and slowly but constantly shift due to the moving molten core, but there is no such "ball magnet" that actually works this way, and they have only ever drilled 8 miles down and so have no idea if Earth has their hypothetical molten magnetic core anyway."

A magnet looses his strength if you heat him up (everybody can check that easily), a normal iron magnet after 80°C, special ones after 250°C. 
So how can the ball earth have a molten core (iron) with more than 1000°C, that behaves magnetically ?

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:20 pm

Posted by csp on 07/18/2015

Jul 17, 2015 13:05:43 GMT cropirate said:
"They say the molten magnetic core causes N/S poles to exist on opposite ends of the ball Earth, and slowly but constantly shift due to the moving molten core, but there is no such "ball magnet" that actually works this way, and they have only ever drilled 8 miles down and so have no idea if Earth has their hypothetical molten magnetic core anyway."

A magnet looses his strength if you heat him up (everybody can check that easily), a normal iron magnet after 80°C, special ones after 250°C. 
So how can the ball earth have a molten core (iron) with more than 1000°C, that behaves magnetically ?




Yes it's a preposterous theory that is exactly that, a theory, but they like to state it as an unequivocal fact even though they have only bored so far down into the earths crust. So it's barely even a theory in reality, it's just a shit guess.

Also to note, Edward Leedskalnin had a chapter in his book titled "You will see the space left were magnets were in", chapter starts after page 14 here:
ia902701.us.archive.org/14/items/MagneticCurrent-Illustrated/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

I speculate Ed truly was across all the topics we are currently discussing and was way before his time, as they say.

I personally believe Eric's magnet image above has a high probability of being the correct model and while Ed was "sucked into the globe model" so to speak, I think he simply just misunderstood the that north pole magnets travel to the north, and south pole magnets are just magnets that want to get away from the north.

With all this being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Ed's work has been doctored or changed somewhat at some point!

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:21 pm

Posted by cropirate on 07/19/2015
Another problem is the rotation of the earth in this theory, because of the so called Barnett effect.

The Barnett effect is the phenomenon that a non-magnetic iron bar becomes magnetic when it is mechanically driven in rotation. Since the ball earth has an iron core (?), it therefore has to generate a magnetic force in their rotation. According to the energy conservation law she would consume her rotational force, because there is no closed energy cycle available. The rotational energy would long ago (assuming she spins billions of years) have to be converted in a magnetic force and the ball earth would have come to a standstill.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:24 pm

Posted by cropirate on 07/20/2015
Thanks gnosticwarrior,
yes, Erics ring magnet model makes the most sense to me too. I am no physics, but in my research about magnetism of the ball earth I stumbled on up to a few other facts.One is that the earth spins the wrong way in their theory. Its hard to explain for me as a non-physics but it has something to do with the way or pattern electrons behave.
Till today electricity and magnetism are not explained, we don't know what's going on, we can only handle the effects of this two forces, we can make light, we can make heat, we can hear electricity but what's really going on is still a (bad) theory. 
I think the sun is something that streams electrons, they collide with the air and produce light, they collide with more tight material and produce heat, they charge our Dome positive or negative (?) so we have one pole, and that's the same force that spins the firmament, and the lights we see in the night-sky are some kind of electron-streamers too.
Its hard to have ideas because I started too think for myself only a few years ago, first you have to realise that you are brainwashed, then you have to forget all this Copernicus,Newton,Einstein,Discovery Channel bullshit and fill your brain with other sources. Its a process and its hard to find other sources, but that I found this Forum makes it a lot of easier.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Posted by Picturethis on 07/20/2015
Hi chaps my first post so if I make any errors I'll say oops now.

Just an observation in Eric's post where it states "The equatorial circumference of the supposed ball-Earth is said to be 24,900 statute or 21,600 nautical miles. A nautical mile is the distance, following the supposed curvature of the Earth, from one minute of latitude to the next. A statue mile is the straight line distance between the two, not taking into account Earth’s alleged curvature.".

This seems wrong to me as the statute mile cuts through the water, a shortcut (which is why you have statutes and legislation in law) which is shorter than the nautical mile. If the circumference is 21,600 then the statute would be 21,600 x 0.868421 as a statute mile is 5,280 feet and a nautical mile is 6,080 feet making the distance 18,757.89. So the nautical and statute are around the wrong way as 24,900 x 0.868421 = 21,623... possibly?

Obviously I did some research as the terminology of nautical mile is something which I must of forgot many moons ago, but the interesting thing here is that I looked it up in two places, boatsafedotcom and the law dictionary which is Black's Law.
Here's the first from boatsafe...
Statute Miles vs. Nautical Miles
Thanks to Michelle d'Aoust for a very precise and detailed answer on how to convert to/from nautical miles:
A statute mile is 5,280 feet in length.
A nautical mile is 6,076.11549... feet in length.
To convert from statute to nautical miles a factor of 1.15 is generally used, even though it is not precise.
(5,280 feet X 1.15) = 6,072 feet (4.11549...feet less than 1 nautical mile).You could add 4.1 feet for each statute mile to be converted. So the new formula would be: {(5280 feet x 1.15)+ 4.1 feet} divided by 6,076.1 feet = 1 nautical mile.
To convert from nautical to statute miles: The factor 1.15 may be used, but again, it is not precise.
(6076.1 divided by 1.15) = 5,283 feet (3.565..feet more than 1 statute mile). Using a precomputed table (such as Bowditch's Table 20) will result in the more precise answers.

But to find Black's Law definition it comes up with... 
What is MIEE 
A measure of length or distance, containing 8 furlongs, or 1,760 yards, or 5,280 feet. This is the measure of an ordinary or statute mile; but the nautical or geographical mile contains 6,080 feet.

So I think to myself, what IS MIEE? so looking it up in Black's Law because that's where it came from, I find NOTHING. The only definition I find from the internet is; Member of the Institution of Electrical Engineers. So this may well help in your discussion on the magnetism of the earth, and if there is a Electrical Engineer on the boards some scratching of the old grey matter may be needed.

As a side note here are the definitions in Black's Law of STATUTE and NAVIGATION exactly as they are in the Law Dictionary. Note the statute is a "con- dition" and when you are navigating you are under the act of science or business.

What is STATUTE?

ranging facts illustrative of the condition and resources of a state. The subject is sometimes divided into (1) historical statistics, or facts which illustrate the former con- dition of a state; (2) statistics of population; (3) of revenue; (4) of trade, commerce, and navigation; (5) of the moral, social, and physical condition of the people. Wharton.
Law Dictionary: What is STATUTE? definition of STATUTE (Black's Law Dictionary)

What is NAVIGATION?

The act or the science or the business of traversing the sea or other waters in ships or vessels.
Law Dictionary: What is NAVIGATION? definition of NAVIGATION (Black's Law Dictionary)

I use Black's Law as much as possible as it is the words that the system uses when they sue our bleedin asses off for whatever they feel like. It has helped me to understand what they are up to immensely because you are using their language. Words generally have more than one meaning.

I hope this helps people. 

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Posted by Admin on 07/20/2015
Hey, thanks for the clarification, did I just get it backwards then? It's 24,900 nautical and 21,600 statute miles in their model?

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Posted by vortexpuppy on 07/20/2015
Jul 19, 2015 15:22:26 GMT Admin said:
Hey, thanks for the clarification, did I just get it backwards then? It's 24,900 nautical and 21,600 statute miles in their model?

Nope, you got it right. According to their model ...

Earths circumference in statute miles = 24,901.5 mi
Earths circumference in nautical miles = 21,600 mi

From Wikipedia:
A nautical mile (symbol M, NM or nmi) is a unit of distance that is approximately one minute of arc measured along any meridian. By international agreement it has been set at 1,852 metres exactly (about 6,076 feet).
The nautical mile was historically defined as a minute of arc along a meridian of the Earth (north-south), making a meridian exactly 180×60 = 10,800 historical nautical miles.[5] It can therefore be used for approximate measures on a meridian as change of latitude on a nautical chart. 
The historical definition differs from the length-based standard in that a minute of arc, and hence a nautical mile, is not a constant length at the surface of the Earth but gradually lengthens in the north-south direction with increasing distance from the equator, as a corollary of the Earth's oblateness.


Note that there are different historical definitions of the nautical mile. See - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautical_mile
Maybe this is causing the confusion in the above post?

If we use the definition that a nautical mile is a minute of longitude at the equator, and there are 60 minutes in a degree, then 60 * 360 degrees = 21,600 mi (nautical).
Statute miles are shorter than nautical miles, so we need more of them to cover the alleged curved circumference.

A nautical mile is approx 1.15 statute miles. So 21,600 x 1.15 = 24,840 statute miles
This is also approximately equal to C= 2πr where r=3,959 mi as per en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_radius

We use statute miles in the measurement of the "drop" of 8" inches per squared mile, using plane geometry (pythagoras).

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:26 pm

Posted by lizardking on 09/07/2015


“As our ship approached the massive ice cap, I was shocked to see a string of waterfalls that straddled the entire expanse of the melting ice” 

Nordaustlandet, Svalbard, Norway. Photo by Paul Nicklen.

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by MajorEpiphany on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:40 am

I thought the people here on IFERS may find this interesting. I e-mailed an Antarctic flight travel consultant to see if they had any flights that go near the south pole. All flights leave from Sydney, Australia. The flights do not go near the south pole, nor are they able to make it very near within the 8 hour total flight time. All of these flights stay on or near the coastline of the Antarctic. The lady was very polite and e-mailed me several maps showing the paths that the airplanes will take. All flights stay on or near the coastline. I may try a few more travel agencies to see if I can get on one of these non-existent trans-Antarctic flights people seem to be raving about.

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"The Copernicus Project"

Post by mitch on Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:07 am

A great idea in principle but there's no way air/water patrols would allow them to get close enough

The Copernicus Project / Flat Earth Proof
by Shane Coulter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/677934911/the-copernicus-project-flat-earth-proof

The goal of 'The Copernicus Project' is to launch high altitude balloons and drones at the Antarctic coast to finally see what's there.

About this project
Our goal is to do research on the Antarctica coast to prove that the earth is flat and that Antarctica is not a continent. We will do this by launching a series of tests including the use of high altitude balloons and drones fitted with cameras to get absolute visual proof the earth is flat.

Risks and challenges
Risks will include weather and operational status of equipment.

Here's an accompanying hit piece by the daily sheeple:
TEAM PLANS SCIENTIFIC EXPEDITION TO ANTARCTICA TO “PROVE” THE EARTH IS FLAT
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/team-plans-scientific-expedition-to-antarctica-to-prove-the-earth-is-flat_032016

*UPDATE* 15th March
Funding Canceled
Funding for this project was canceled by the project creator 6 days ago.


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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Themis on Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:09 am

The first two men who reached the "South Pole" -Scott Robert Falcon and Roald Amundsen,were MASONS.

Here they are on list in Grand Lodge of Andorra.

http://gran-logia-andorra.com/en/node/84

They two was in competition who will reach first "south " pole.


Roald Amundsen  16 July 1872 – c. 18 June 1928 was a Norwegian explorer of polar regions. He led the Antarctic expedition of 1910–12 which was the first to reach the South Pole, on 14 December 1911, the team of five, with 16 dogs, arrived at the Pole (90° 0′ S).They arrived 33–34 days before Scott’s group.

In 1926, he was the first expedition leader for the air expedition to the North Pole.

Amundsen disappeared with five crew on 18 June 1928 while flying on a rescue mission in the Arctic.

Roald Amundsen and his crew looking at the Norwegian flag at the South Pole, 1911




Robert Falcon Scott, (6 June 1868 – 29 March 1912) was an English Royal Navy officer and explorer who led two expeditions to the Antarctic regions.

During the second adventure, Scott led a party of five which reached the South Pole on 17 January 1912, only to find that they had been preceded by Roald Amundsen's Norwegian expedition.

Scott and all his crew died in way back from south pole. Scott is presumed to have died on 29 March 1912, or possibly one day later. The bodies of Scott and his companions were discovered by a search party on 12 November 1912 and their records retrieved .
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Post by Admin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:33 pm

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:50 pm

Wonderful job Eric! This is one of your greatest videos yet, packed full on incredible information and some fantastic Flat Earth memes.

No 'Ball-Earther' would dare to try and debunk this with science, quite simply because they cannot do so. All they can do is desperately cling to their photoshopped NasArsehole images, which are as precious to them as the 'Messiah' is to Christians.

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Animal Sanctuary on Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:26 am

Watched it a few times and keep learning stuff. I'm getting it now how the longitude and latitude lines spread out further and further as you move "South". No wonder so many ships were wrecked and scuttled along the way. Eric keeps driving it home.

Nice bit at the end too. Oh well why don't we just move the ceremonial South-Pole marker to where it should be...uh well uhh...I don't know...

I'm running out of witty ways to compliment your work Eric. I'll just say, thank you.
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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by Themis on Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:29 pm

Good proofs you collected Eric Dubay. Great video.
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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by susie on Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:07 pm

RESEARCH FACILITY IN ANTARCTICA
Apparently they have Billions to spend on Antarctica.  
Or studying how to penetrate an inpenetrable barrier perhaps?


http://www.designmadeinaustria.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2.jpg



(More photos at link)

Project still in planning stage. Might just be a dream project or they might have plans.
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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by BlueAmber22 on Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:42 pm

MajorEpiphany wrote:I thought the people here on IFERS may find this interesting. I e-mailed an Antarctic flight travel consultant to see if they had any flights that go near the south pole. All flights leave from Sydney, Australia. The flights do not go near the south pole, nor are they able to make it very near within the 8 hour total flight time. All of these flights stay on or near the coastline of the Antarctic. The lady was very polite and e-mailed me several maps showing the paths that the airplanes will take. All flights stay on or near the coastline. I  may try a few more travel agencies to see if I can get on one of these non-existent trans-Antarctic flights people seem to be raving about.

Take care with some of those tricky trip masters.....

Antarctica is NOT a continent Tiger Dan925 Jumped Ship

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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by fightback5289 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:12 am

Is there an official figure for the circumference of the Antarctic circle? It's hard to find. Wink The arctic circle is about 11,000 miles, so an official figure for the Antarctic circle would need to be similar.
On a flat earth, the circumference just keeps expanding from the equator. The equator circumference is about 25,000 miles, so it's impossible for the Antarctic circle to be 11,000 miles.
But on maps, there is only about 11,000 miles of Antarctic coastline shown. This means there are enormous parts of Antarctica cut out of maps and the remaining coastline was stitched together.

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Post by fightback5289 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:50 am

Admin wrote:The “Australian Handbook, Almanack, Shippers’ and Importers’ Directory” states that the distance between Sydney and Nelson is 1400 nautical or 1633 statute miles...
“From near Cape Horn, Chile to Port Philip in Melbourne, Australia the distance is 9,000 miles.

It seems they have 'revised' these distances. The website below gives the distance between Sydney and Nelson as 1166 nautical miles. The distance from Punta Arenas, Chile to Melbourne, Australia is said to be 5881 nautical miles.
http://www.sea-distances.org/

Are they lying about the actual distances, and if so, would sea captains notice? Or do captains become accustomed to the long journey time, and assume they are slowed down by the wild southern ocean? E.g. a few cargo ships travel the area between South Africa and Australia. Is it possible that for every mile a ship travels in the southern ocean (between east and west), it travels less than a mile on the GPS system? Just a thought.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/

GPS stops working below 60 degrees south latitude.
http://www.gps-forums.com/threads/gps-coverage-of-antarctica.46068/

Unlicensed fishermen get harassed by their eco-terrorists.


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Re: The South Pole Does Not Exist!

Post by FL@T-E@RTH on Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:25 pm

fightback5289 wrote:

GPS stops working below 60 degrees south latitude.
http://www.gps-forums.com/threads/gps-coverage-of-antarctica.46068/

And in that statement right there is 100% proof satellites do NOT exist.
GPS is allegedly served by 32 geostationary satellites and requires triangulation from a minimum of 4.
If there are 32 satellites in orbit there is no reason that GPS should not work on any point of the alleged Globe Earth where you are easily in sight of at least 4 at any one time.
What they also do not tell you is they also use GLONASS (the alleged Russian GPS system), which remarkably is transmitted using cell phone towers at 1575.42+-3 Mhz

4G cell towers are transmitting at:

824-851mhz - Cellular A & B franchises, terminal
869-896mhz - Cellular A & B franchises, base station
1575mhz - GNSS L1 band—GPS (funny that, I thought GPS was done by satellite lol)
1710-1755mhz - AWS mobile phone uplink (UL) operating band
1850–1910mhz - PCS mobile phone (3 blocks at 15mhz and 3 blocks at 5mhz)
1930–1990mhz - PCS base stations (3 blocks at 15mhz and 3 blocks at 5mhz)
2110–2155mhz - AWS mobile phone downlink (DL) operating band

Also take note the Digital TV switch-over which has been instigated Worldwide adapts the TV transmitters to work with packed bit-streams,
this means the TV transmitters can and do broadcast all the above frequencies, this means GPS will work from the TV transmitters (which cover almost 95% of every country) as well as the cell towers which act as relays in areas of low reception.
It was never about more TV channels or better quality, it was about building the SMART grid.

This is all part of the agenda, install the SMART grid, install the micro-chipping of the population and a digital hashed currency, much the same as Bitcoin all linked via a huge Wi-Fi network using the analogue TV transmitters, cell phone transmitters, peoples home Internet (via Wi-Fi routers and there ADSL/Fibre Internet connections).



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