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Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:35 pm

Posted by honesttruthseeker on 03/29/2015
Hi.

Just came across this article Kansas is flatter than a pankake.

They tested how flat the state of Kansas is. Notice how they try to ridicule/make the article seem like a joke by comparing it to a pankake.

Nonetheless, the results are amazing. Kansas is 0.9997 flat over its length of 645km, on a scale where 1.0 means perfect flattness. 

Please note that a circle has flatness 0 between any two points on its circumference, no matter how close the points.

According to the curvature formula, there should be a difference of almost 8km in curvature over the length of Kansas.

Let the helicentrists explain this!!

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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:36 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/30/2015



I am amazed that this doesn't make more people question the Globe Earth Theory. 

The fact that Kansas is that flat alone goes to disprove that our Earth is a globe IMO, because as you say, it should have an almost 8km difference in curvature over the length of the state. 

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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:36 pm

Posted by schpankme on 04/08/2015
The State of Utah is also Flat.  Seems to me, that with all these Flat places to be found across the face of the Earth, wouldn't that mean that the Arc creating the Ball Earth would need to be much Greater?  



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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:36 pm

Posted by susie on 05/26/2015
Forgot to mention I am originally from Kansas.

On the highway between my hometown and the next city is a very small rise which you can see lights of 7 different towns at night. Ranging from 15 to 60 miles away, these towns are from the observer.

At night all over Kansas this is observed. Never thought about it until now.

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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:37 pm

Posted by Jimmy on 07/14/2015
I've driven all the way across Kansas on the way to Denver, CO and it's definitely flat. One of the most boring states to drive through by yourself. Oh, look, there's another cornfield! I hit about 200 tumbleweeds and found them a year later tucked into my radiator when I was replacing some car parts. Lol.

The drive was worth it though... Got to smoke legally for the first time in my life without having to worry about the old bill on my back.



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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:38 pm

Posted by susie on 08/12/2015
More time lapse videos from Kansas I found.







Boot Hill Sunrise Dodge City KS







Dodge City Sunrise





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The Kansas Study Proves the Earth in Toto is Flat

Post by edwardh on Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:49 pm

The study by Mark Fonstad, Ph.D., William Pugatch, and Brandon Vogt, Ph.D. involved a measure of the flatness of Kansas, but it has implications far beyond Kansas. It proves that the earth in toto is flat.

Mark Fonstad, et al., used data from the United States Geological Survey to determine that, on scale, the State of Kansas is literally flatter than a pancake. On a scale where one (1) is perfectly flat, the geographers used a confocal laser to determine that a pancake had a measured flatness of .957. The State of Kansas was scaled down using a 1:250,000 scale digital elevation model (DEM). Kansas was found to have a measured flatness of .9997.

Mark Fonstad, William Pugatch, and Brandon Vogt, Kansas is Flatter Than a Pancake, Improbable Research, 2003, http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i3/kansas.html .

Fonstad, et al., compared transections of a pancake and the east-west profile of merged relief data from the State of Kansas. The pancake used by Fonstad, et al., was obtained from an IHOP restaurant. Its relief was measured at 2 millimeters over a diameter of 130 millimeters. Relief means the quantitative measurement of vertical elevation change in a landscape over a given area. For an area of land, the relief can be obtained by subtracting its highest point in elevation from its lowest point. A simple way to compare the relief of two transected profiles of different sizes is to divide the relief by the length of the transection. The resulting relief quotient can be used to compare the relief of the two transected profiles. The lower the relief quotient, the flatter is the area. The relief quotient for the pancake in the Fonstad, et al., research project was .015 (130 ÷ 2 = .015).

The highest point in the State of Kansas is 4,039 feet above sea level, and the lowest point is 679 feet above sea level. The relief for Kansas, therefore, is 3,360 feet (.64 miles). The east-west transection of Kansas is 400 miles across, resulting in an approximate relief quotient of .0016 (400 ÷ .64 = .0016). The comparison of relief quotients confirms the results obtained by Fonstad, et al. Kansas is, by far, flatter than a pancake.

Jerome Dobson, President of the American Geographical Society and Professor of Geography at the University of Kansas and Joshua Campbell, geographer and GIS architect in the Office of the Geographer and Global Issues at the U.S. Department of State, came to the defense of the State of Kansas. They did not want people to think that Kansas was flat and boring. Dobson and Campbell concluded that  according to the research study of Dr. Fonstad, et al., in order for Kansas not to be flatter than a pancake over its 400 mile span, would require Kansas to have a mountain that is 32,506 feet (approx. 6 miles) above sea level (400 miles × .015 relief quotient for a pancake = 6 miles). Such a six (6) mile high mountain would be approximately 10 times the actual variation in terrain in Kansas, and taller than the tallest mountain in the world, which is Mount Everest, at 29,029 feet above sea level.

Matt Sokiak, Is Kansas Really "Flatter than a Pancake"?, September 22, 2014, http://mentalfloss.com/article/58976/kansas-really-flatter-pancake .

If the earth were a globe, Kansas would have a bulging arc more than 52,800 feet (10 miles) above sea level. That would exceed the needed height above sea level to not be considered flatter than a pancake by 4 miles. The fact that the maximum relief in Kansas is only 3,360 feet, means that there is no such bulging arc. The study by Dr. Fonstad, et al., has far reaching implications, not lost on geographers. Lee Allison, the Director of the Kansas Geological Survey, concluded from that research study that “everything on Earth is flatter than the pancake as they measured it.”

Dr. Dobson, performed additional research on the issue of the flatness of Kansas. Dr. Dobson was joined in his research by Joshua Campbell. Dobson and Campbell used a different methodology than did Dr. Fonstad, et al., but their research confirmed the results of Dr. Fonstad, et al.

Most notably, Dobson and Campbell found that the entire United States was flatter than a pancake. Dobson and Campbell further discovered that Florida, Illinois, North Dakota, Louisiana, Minnesota and Delaware were all flatter than Kansas.

Dr. Dobson extrapolated from his own confirmatory research that the entire world is flatter than a pancake. Dr. Dobson had this to say about the research study by  Dr. Fonstad, et al.: “Our own findings did not refute their conclusion about Kansas but rather proved that their conclusion applies to the whole world.” Dr. Dobson’s research was published in the Geographical Review, a peer-reviewed journal published by the American Geographical Society. Neither Dobson and Campbell’s findings, nor those of Dr. Fonstad, et al., have ever been refuted or even challenged. For the United States, on scale, to be flatter than a pancake, necessarily means that the earth must be flat. The research of Dobson, Campbell, and Fontad, et. al., proves that to be the case.

We do not need to rely on the opinions of experts. Simple calculations that can be done by anyone prove that the earth is not a sphere but is, in fact, flat. For example, the continental United States is approximately 2,800 miles across. If the earth were a globe, the continental United States would have a terrain with a bulged arc approximately 2,613,333 feet (495 miles) above sea level across it. No such topographical bulge exists. If the earth were a globe the continental United States should have a relief quotient of .17 (495 ÷ 2,800 = .17). The actual relief quotient of the continental United States, however, does not come close to the relief quotient (.17) that would be expected on a spherical earth.

The highest point in the continental United States is 14,494 above sea level, and the lowest point is 282 feet below sea level. The relief across the 2,800 mile breadth of the continental United States is therefore 14,776 feet (2.8 miles) (14,494 + 282 = 14,776) (14,776 feet = 2.8 miles). The reason that 282 feet is added to the 14,494 feet is because the 282 foot elevation is below sea level. Dividing 2.8 miles by the 2,800 mile breadth of the continental United States gives us a relief quotient of .001 (2.8 ÷ 2,800 = .001).

The actual relief quotient for the continental United States of .001 means that the earth cannot be a sphere. If the earth were a sphere the relief quotient for the continental United States would be exponentially greater (.17).

Using a pancake as a gauge of flatness, we find that the terrain of the continental United States is, on scale, significantly flatter than a pancake. The relief quotient of a pancake is approximately .015, which is much greater than the .001 relief quotient of the continental United States. That means that the continental United States is flat, which in turn means that the earth is flat.

The above information came from “The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World Is Not a Moving Globe,” by Edward Hendrie.


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Re: Kansas Is Perfectly Flat!

Post by csp on Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:21 am

I posted a quote from this article in another thread, and swear I posted it here - I must have been mistaken. The article in question, from The University of Kansas:

https://news.ku.edu/2014/02/06/research-if-you-think-kansas-flattest-us-state-youre-plain-wrong

By any measure, Florida takes the prize for the flattest state in the nation because the highest point in the state is only 345 feet above sea level.  Then Illinois, North Dakota, Louisiana, Minnesota and Delaware follow. Kansas merely ranks seventh in flatness.

The findings appear in the current issue of the Geographical Review, a peer-reviewed journal published by the American Geographical Society. Dobson hopes the research will help dispel the myth that Kansas is so formidably flat.

The same research is used in the post above this, however a link to the actual article from the university is a better source to share for the skeptical minds.
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