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Post by odolvlobo on Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:57 am

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odolvlobo wrote:I will be traveling to Antarctica in January. I will be on a ship off the coast for three days, but I will also be on the ground in Villa Las Estrellas for part of a day. Unfortunately, I won't be south enough to show that there is no midnight sun, even though it is the right time of year.

Does anyone have any suggestions for any evidence that I can gather or research that I can do? Please make suggestions!

Did you go?

Yes, I went but I could not go ashore because of bad weather. However, I took this picture facing south at 1:30 am.

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Post by RedorBlue on Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:25 pm

That's an intriguing photo . Am I right to think that you were in antarctic waters and , looking south , took that photo whilst the sun was north of you.

Also, did you happen to have a compass with you? How did it react?

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Post by 302294-ai on Thu May 07, 2020 1:41 pm

Admin wrote:6 climbers, 6 peaks, 9,616 feet = 66666

The only reason for this article's existence is to bolster the myth that "at least there's 24 hours of sunlight most of the time."

6 climbers + 6 peaks = 12 = 3

9616 feet 9+6 +1+6 = 22

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Post by markwilson on Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:38 pm

RedorBlue wrote:That's an intriguing photo . Am I right to think that you were in antarctic waters and , looking south , took that photo whilst the sun was north of you.

Also, did you happen to have a compass with you? How did it react?

He didn't answer your questions. If he was outside of the sun's closed circumpolar path around the north pole, he was not facing south as claimed when the picture was taken. The light from the sun would have been to his north. Any travel away from the North Pole (on a longitude line traveling from the Pole in a southward direction), while outside of the sun's closed circuit of travel around the Pole, would result in the sun being to the north when the observer is outside of its closed circumpolar circle of travel.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

So we can know for certain that at best his picture is of the sun located from between a northeast (early morning), to north (midday), to northwest (late afternoon) position relative to his own position outside of the sun's closed circuit to the north.
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Post by RedorBlue on Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:33 pm

You're not wrong.

Reason I asked about the compass - did he judge he was looking south reading from a compass? Would be nice to know since the S dip pole is given at 64S 130E or there abouts.

Would the compass reading of South (if he used one) actually be pointing along lines of declination eastwards towards that dip pole ?, if you get my meaning - sun rise in the east in that photo maybe - but compass reading south . Just a thought .

Seems earths mag field is an unknown quantity according to mainstream view .
http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/education/poles.html

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Post by markwilson on Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:39 pm

FYI those wanting a better understanding of demonstrable facts in nature, there are 53 occurrences of "magnetic" in Eric's latest book, Flatlantis, in which the "North Pole [is] the magnetic mono-pole center-point of the flat Earth with Polaris, the North Pole star situated directly above."

Fifty-two of those occurrences reference magnetic attraction in the Earth in some way or other, and one references "electromagnetically" measured chakra points at the "seven energy centers" in the body.

A greater understanding can be found in his excellent book and we can support his efforts by purchasing a copy at,

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ericdubay
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Post by Admin on Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:42 pm

I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the book and really appreciate the kind words and support Mark!
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Post by odolvlobo on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:18 am

RedorBlue wrote:That's an intriguing photo . Am I right to think that you were in antarctic waters and , looking south , took that photo whilst the sun was north of you.

Also, did you happen to have a compass with you? How did it react?

markwilson wrote:
He didn't answer your questions. If he was outside of the sun's closed circumpolar path around the north pole, he was not facing south as claimed when the picture was taken. The light from the sun would have been to his north. Any travel away from the North Pole (on a longitude line traveling from the Pole in a southward direction), while outside of the sun's closed circuit of travel around the Pole, would result in the sun being to the north when the observer is outside of its closed circumpolar circle of travel.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

So we can know for certain that at best his picture is of the sun located from between a northeast (early morning), to north (midday), to northwest (late afternoon) position relative to his own position outside of the sun's closed circuit to the north.

Sorry, for taking so long to respond. I did not have a magnetic compass with me. Sorry.

The ship was traveling directly north at the time of the picture towards Argentina. I verified it with a GPS compass. The picture is facing south, and not north.

I can't say where the sun was because it was not visible. However, as the picture shows, it does appear to south of me, but far enough away to appear below the horizon.


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Post by markwilson on Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:44 am

odolvlobo wrote:
RedorBlue wrote:That's an intriguing photo . Am I right to think that you were in antarctic waters and , looking south , took that photo whilst the sun was north of you.

Also, did you happen to have a compass with you? How did it react?

markwilson wrote:
He didn't answer your questions. If he was outside of the sun's closed circumpolar path around the north pole, he was not facing south as claimed when the picture was taken. The light from the sun would have been to his north. Any travel away from the North Pole (on a longitude line traveling from the Pole in a southward direction), while outside of the sun's closed circuit of travel around the Pole, would result in the sun being to the north when the observer is outside of its closed circumpolar circle of travel.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

So we can know for certain that at best his picture is of the sun located from between a northeast (early morning), to north (midday), to northwest (late afternoon) position relative to his own position outside of the sun's closed circuit to the north.

Sorry, for taking so long to respond. I did not have a magnetic compass with me. Sorry.

The ship was traveling directly north at the time of the picture towards Argentina. I verified it with a GPS compass. The picture is facing south, and not north.

I can't say where the sun was because it was not visible. However, as the picture shows, it does appear to south of me, but far enough away to appear below the horizon.

Your original post mentioned being "on the ground in Villa Las Estrellas for part of a day" back in January, shortly after the winter solstice. Villa Las Estrellas is at roughly 62 degrees south latitude.

If your "ship was traveling directly north at the time of the picture towards Argentina," I assume that means you had already been further south to Villa Las Estrellas and were on the return trip north. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The sun's circumpolar path around the North Pole expands its closed circular path around the Pole to roughly 23 degrees south latitude when at the Tropic of Capricorn at December solstice.

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The above graphic isn't representative of reality since we know Earth is established on a plane. It merely puts in perspective where your ship was relative to the sun's southernmost circumference of travel around the North Pole; i.e., your ship appears to have been south of Argentina, north of Villa Las Estrellas, and traveling northward on the return trip if I understand it correctly.

Better representation of our plane reality:

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There is no way you were facing the sun to the south of the position the picture was taken from. Once outside the sun's closed circumpolar path around the Pole the sun would have remained to your north, and would not "appear to south of [you]."

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Admin on Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:11 am

Exactly Mark Wilson. Odolvlobo only has 3 posts on the entire forum and they are all in this thread trying to claim, without evidence, something completely contrary to what we know for a fact about the Sun's position on Earth REGARDLESS of flat or globe models. This is clearly a shill trying to obfuscate as they constantly come here to do.
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Post by markwilson on Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:47 pm

Archival black & white Super 8 film footage shot from South Georgia Island (roughly 54 degrees south latitude).

https://mubi.com/films/end-of-summer-2014

It's only 28 minutes long. The only direct shot of the sun is at roughly 27 minutes, a sun seen moving beyond the horizon. Since it is claimed to be a "waning Antarctic summer, the film is a series of mainly static tableaux made over a 20-day period," I assume the footage was taken during a December solstice time frame.

Without a Mubi subscription I'm not sure where else one might stream it. It's on Mubi for a limited time. Here's a starting point for those interested: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=j%C3%B3hann+j%C3%B3hannsson+end+of+summer&t=ffab&ia=web
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