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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:22 pm

The Heliocentric model claims the Earth is a ball rotating around the Sun. We know that's a lie and the Earth is flat with the Sun circling the Flat Earth.

How can we prove this? I think I can

Perspective, divergence and even the colour of a Sunset.

The Heliocentric model claims the Earth tilts 23.4 degrees to give us our seasons of Summer & Winter, but the truth is it is merely the Sun drifting in its circular rotation of the FE from The Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic Of Cancer.
When the Sun is at the Tropic Of Capricorn (21st Of December) it is Summer in Australia and Winter in England.
This is because the Sun is directly above Australia but in England we see the Sun as low in the sky to the horizon (due to perspective and divergence)
As the months roll on the Sun starts it's circular rotation from the Tropic Of Capricorn to The Tropic Of Cancer (arriving on June 21st), this gives us Summer in England and Winter in Australia, completely reversed, The Sun is directly above England, but low in the sky to the horizon to Australia.
It's all perspective and divergence.

I mentioned Sunsets, well, as we all know the Sun appears yellow in the sky during the day, but as sunset approaches the Sun appears to first change to orange and then finally to red before disappearing behind the Horizon and night comes upon us.
Why is this? why not green or even blue?
Again it's down to divergence, perspective and ultimately the visible light spectrum,
As the Sun moves further away from us toward the horizon perspective and divergence come in to play again, but this time with the visible light spectrum.
Yellow has a wavelength of 570–590 nm, as the sun gets further away it changes colour to orange which has a wavelength of 590–620 nm and as it gets even further away, before dropping behind the horizon it changes colour to red which has a wavelength of 620–750 nm.
Incidentally yellow, then orange, then red are sequential in the visible spectrum, as the sun gets further away the longer wavelengths of orange then red become prominent due to convergence and perspective.
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Post by PriorityMinority Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:17 am

The Sun is directly above England,

i like your piece, but remember the sun isn't above England in the summer, it's above north africa, about 2-3000kms south.

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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:29 am

Correct, what I actually meant was on June 21st (Summer Solstice) the Sun is at it's most direct over-head point if viewed in England, and on December 21st (Winter Solstice) the sun is at it's most direct over-head point if viewed in Australia.
This is due to the path the Sun takes in it's circular rotation from the Tropic Of Cancer (21st June) to The Tropic Of Capricorn (December 21st).
However mainstream science accounts for this path and observable phenomenon with their ludicrous explanation that the Globe tilts 23.4 degrees to produce this observable phenomenon.
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Post by Billuk64 Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:17 am

I have been thinking about this quite a lot lately . How do they come to this figure of 93 million miles anyway ? Can you imagine how far a million miles is ? We are told that the sun`s light and heat take 8 minutes to reach us on planet earth but it just does not feel like it . It has to travel 93 million miles of cold space before it reaches us burning hot ? Not possible to my mind. Just notice how quickly it gets cold when the sun goes behind a thick cloud and then how almost instantly gets hot again when the sun emerges .

NASA is supposed to be sending a probe directly at the sun I believe ? Well we know that is just more of their spaceballs to keep the billions rolling in. As long as the globalists propaganda keeps working they can get away with such nonsense but how much longer ?

Anyway glad you posted this article and totally agree with you.

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Post by liminoid Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:56 pm

Billuk64 wrote:How do they come to this figure of 93 million miles anyway ?

This guy approaches things from an engineering standpoint, and although he avoids landing on his conclusions with certainty, his direct and unemotional approach is refreshing.

In these video he walks through a bit of the history and math behind how the gravitational constant was "discovered" via the Cavendish (torsion bar) experiment. This value was what allowed the heliocentric model to start making distance calculations etc. It literally is the key lynchpin for that model and, as he demonstrates, isn't very firm footing.

As gripping and fast paced as the video is Smile I found the math and narrative behind it pretty helpful.





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Post by Schpankme Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:26 pm

liminoid wrote:
he walks through a bit of the history
how the gravitational constant was "discovered" via the Cavendish (torsion bar) experiment
This value allowed the heliocentric model to start making distance calculations
It literally is the key lynchpin for that model

Let us turn to the Holy Scriptures at stanford.edu, where we read:

Sir Henry Cavendish did invent the MASS of the Earth, he did publish said invention in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society in 1798.

Praise be to the LORD God of [G]ravity by which Brother Cavendish through his invention of Earth Mass, then yielded the Mass for all other Spaceballs such as the Sun and the Moon; being fruitful Brother Cavendish also verified the universal nature of Newton's Theory of [G]ravitation;

And the FREEMASON did rejoice.

Then the LORD thy God of [G]ravity did inspire Brother Cavendish, thereby bringing the inverse square law down from thy Spaceballs and into the laboratory. We further thank thee God for guiding Brother Cavendish to scribe his results to calculate the gravitational constant [G]; this experiment of Faith described as the first determination of this constant.

Oh LORD God of [G]ravity let those that can see be shown that virtually all calculations are done via ratios so that proportionality constants are, in general, dropped out.

We thank thee LORD God of [G]ravity for providing the Faith to understand how Spaceballs orbit about one another in the vacuum of space.  We know that thou vacuum dost suck with equal amounts about the whole of the Balls, we further thank thee Oh LORD for keeping our Balls from coming together; Praise be to [G]od.

And the FREEMASONS did rejoice.

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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:49 pm

I do not buy that video, Plasma, yes, but plasma being the reason for the actual colours in the sky is merely conjecture and a theory.
My explanation is concise and is provable with light wavelengths which is truly the answer when it comes to the vanishing point and divergence/refraction of light.
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Post by Dactylion Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:32 am

FL@T-E@RTH wrote:The Heliocentric model claims the Earth tilts 23.4 degrees to give us our seasons of Summer & Winter, but the truth is it is merely the Sun drifting in its circular rotation of the FE from The Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic Of Cancer.
Something to add.. the heliocentric model with the Earth at 23.4 degrees tilt, should reflect in greater temperature differences throughout the year at the equator.

Yet the average temperature along the equator doesn't shift by any more than 2.2 degrees throughout the entire year.

In fact there should be more consistency of temperature averages between summer and winter regardless of country and region, if we were really on a ball at a 23.4 degree tilt.

They try to explain this away by saying the Earth is stretched slightly at the equator (aka "pear shaped"), though then you have an inconsistency between that and all the alleged photographs of the planet.

Along with the numerous inconsistencies with surface areas, travel times of planes and ships.. it all falls apart lol
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Post by Phineas Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:50 pm

Does not temperature changes answer the 93 million mile question ? I live in the north. The temperature difference between where I live compared to the temperature say 1200 miles due south is very significant. If the sun was 93 million miles away, the circumferential area of heat could not possibly fluctuate that much over such a small distance of 1200 miles. This pretty much tells you that the sun is close. Some may argue that the apex of the curvature at the equator is closer to the sun, but in my case this would only represent a radial distance of about 1000 miles closer over 1200 miles, totally negligible when considering the supposed 93 million miles.

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Post by AJRas Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:53 am

Parker Solar Probe

It will launch next week, 8/11/18.
It will reach within about 3.7 million miles of the sun.
It moves at approximately 450,000 miles per hour.
The mission duration is 6 years 321 days.
Don't worry...to withstand the heat, the probe is made with a 4 1/2 inch thick solar shadow-shield made from reinforced carbon-carbon composite.  


Video is from the "NASA Goddard" YouTube channel.
The narrator's voice sounds very convincing.

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Post by be1ng11 Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:57 pm

In order to expose a fallacy it is important to question and attempt to validate accepted models. If the earth is rotating at approximately 1000 mph at the equator, orbiting around the sun at 70000 mph while at the same time the sun is moving at an average of 514000 mph in a direction that is roughly perpendicular to the orbital plane of the earth... then please consider the following. It takes 8 minutes 20 seconds for light traveling from the sun to reach the earth ...since the sun and solar system is moving at 514000 mph we can therefore agree that the entire solar system would have moved approximately 68533 miles within those 8 minutes... so... by the time the sunlight has intersected the earth's orbital path, the earth would in fact be 68533 miles away from that point of intersection! This means that if the currently accepted scale and speeds describing the solar system were accurate, then it would be impossible to see the sun, in fact the earth might be in constant darkness because it would always be 68533 miles ahead of any sunlight reaching it's orbital path. The only light that could possibly reach the earth would be light traveling in vectors perpendicular and angular to the direction that the sun and entire solar system is moving... Theoretically, in order to view the sun in the current model, you would have to get rid of the 514000 mph vector, leaving a stationary sun, this is the only way that the earth's orbital path will be in the correct location to receive any light from the sun...


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Post by Brahngrier Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:24 am

The sun is 93 million miles away according to mainstream Science.
In all the discussions I have researched, one infallible truth seems to continually be omitted.
The principle of Entropy.

Heat expands at a constant calculable rate. The heat from the sun after travelling 93M miles should be at a constant level give or take a degree or two. Surrounding the Earth.
What it shouldn’t do, is come in at say 4degrees in the morning, 24degrees in the afternoon and 19 degrees in the evening. Yet this is exactly the phenomenon we experience every day.

What it shouldn’t do is have different temperature for one city and a different temperature for another city only a couple of hundred miles away.

Thoughts?

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Post by DJ aZoiD Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:39 pm

The reason I cannot believe in the local sun and moon as presented by most flat earthers is because.......if the moon is rotating above from most models you would therefore see the backside of the moon from certain positions on earth as it moves away from you. Granted I may not know enough about views of the moon from certain locations but to me there wouldn't be a dark side of the moon that has never been observed if the moon is circling above like most models show. I can however subscribe to it being WiTHiN the firmament like a screen. I see it as someone drawing a sphere on a flat piece of paper shaded well for dimensions. It looks spherical but is on a flat canvas. I think we are close to a model, but not there yet. I can imagine it being in a lid of some sort and I do believe it is affected by the north and rotates around the north but it would have to be beyond 60 degrees south rotating actually inside a firmament for lack of a better word.. I try to imagine a 2d bottom down moon where all u see is the bottom of a sphere to it's hard to visualize sometimes. I hope people can help me out with this and I hope that stimulates something. If I'm missing something please inform me. Ty for your time and please be respectful to my assumption.

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Post by Realearth Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:05 pm

DJ aZoiD wrote:The reason I cannot believe in the local sun and moon as presented by most flat earthers is because.......if the moon is rotating above from most models you would therefore see the backside of the moon from certain positions on earth as it moves away from you.  Granted I may not know enough about views of the moon from certain locations but to me there wouldn't be a dark side of the moon that has never been observed if the moon is circling above like most models show.  I can however subscribe to it being WiTHiN the firmament like a screen.  I see it as someone drawing a sphere on a flat piece of paper shaded well for dimensions.  It looks spherical but is on a flat canvas.  I think we are close to a model, but not there yet.  I can imagine it being in a lid of some sort and I do believe it is affected by the north and rotates around the north but it would have to be beyond 60 degrees south rotating actually inside a firmament for lack of a better word..  I try to imagine a 2d bottom down moon where all u see is the bottom of a sphere to it's hard to visualize sometimes.  I hope people can help me out with this and I hope that stimulates something.  If I'm missing something please inform me.  Ty for your time and please be respectful to my assumption.

There are photos from high altitude balloons of the Suns hot spots on the earth.
These hot spots could only come from a local Sun.
A reasonable progression from that is the moon would have to be local for it to eclipse the Sun.
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Post by DJ aZoiD Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:20 am

I don't have any problems with that statement. I have seen footage that confirms that claim. I do think the two are to be similar in size I have seen footage of an eclipse where sun appears behind the supposed moon and the whole sun is visible with supposed moon blackened in front of sun. It is a glow which may have a haze to it's illumination so maybe it's shape is smaller abit just radiates behind giving the impression that it's circumference is larger.I'm not sure. I would like some comments on the sun and moon affected by atmospheric lensing. If the stars are mini suns and some illuminaries would have to be the moon's of other planets then how come they do not get larger around horizon and smaller when overhead like the sun and moon do? To me that is evidence the sun and moon are local due to that phenomenon as well as the illuminaries above are not what sun and moon are or they too would get larger as they travel towards the viewers horizon. Is that statement ok? Can anyone use these assumptions?

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Post by DJ aZoiD Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:45 am

Intensity of the sun may be regulated if we had all the pieces of this realm. Remember the metal placed in magnetic coil video? If not look it up the metal rotates rapidly then heats up and illuminates like the sun. If these chemtrails are putting metal in the air and the coil could be the North then I think it's safe to say they may be intensifying the sun as a facade for their global warming agenda. Again I can't say it's true just saying I won't dismiss it as not possible.

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Post by BobWise Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:24 am

"Again it's down to divergence, perspective and ultimately the visible light spectrum,
As the Sun moves further away from us toward the horizon perspective and divergence come in to play again, but this time with the visible light spectrum.
Yellow has a wavelength of 570–590 nm, as the sun gets further away it changes colour to orange which has a wavelength of 590–620 nm and as it gets even further away, before dropping behind the horizon it changes colour to red which has a wavelength of 620–750 nm.
Incidentally yellow, then orange, then red are sequential in the visible spectrum, as the sun gets further away the longer wavelengths of orange then red become prominent due to convergence and perspective.
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I love this explanation about how the Wavelengths of the Sun change as the distance increases. It completely invalidates the "scientific" idea that a "star" is further away from us than another star. OR, I should say, invalidates the idea that a star is "x" number of light-years away due to its "red shift!"

The red shift in the light from our sun is obvious even though the Sun is very close to us there is a red shift which, according to modern day science, should only occur over great distances.

"...nuff said!!!"

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Post by DJ aZoiD Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:24 pm

Again that doesn’t help I purposely used the moon rotating above not the sun. That was for a reason. Let’s use the moon and admit what we observe there. I cannot at this point see any views of the moon other than the face. To me we would see behind it’s face as it travels above in the circuit especially as it travels away. One thing I’ve done is take a high lumens flashlight and beam it on a body of water the initial beam coming out the flashlight (we will call sun for this example) manifests through the flashlight and emits through the components and beams out as a circular beam. When that beam hits the water it is a circle. Move the flashlight and observe it’s mirrored light reflecting off water too. There is a reflective beam from beam 1aka sun. Move flashlight until these two beams interact on each other and it is similar to what our sun and moon do in there phenomena. There could just be a sun and the moon is an image of the cold sun reflecting off the lid of the sky. The beam trajectory would be similar to billards angles bouncing off rails the angles move around then the initial light comes back into contact with itself. Toss that around lmk what that brings up. Ty

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