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Post by Admin Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:42 am

Some great points made here:

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Post by Realearth Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:04 am

EthericData2 wrote:Hey,
What's going on there? Are these occurrences man-made? Are they created naturally by the firmament? Are they occurring outside of the firmament?

No proof of a firmament.
Perhaps you could research your question and report what you find.
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Post by EthericData2 Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:58 am

Realearth wrote:
EthericData2 wrote:Hey,
What's going on there? Are these occurrences man-made? Are they created naturally by the firmament? Are they occurring outside of the firmament?

No proof of a firmament.
Perhaps you could research your question and report what you find.


Do you have any research suggestions? I will report back any noteworthy findings.

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Post by Realearth Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:40 pm

EthericData2 wrote:
Realearth wrote:
EthericData2 wrote:Hey,
What's going on there? Are these occurrences man-made? Are they created naturally by the firmament? Are they occurring outside of the firmament?

No proof of a firmament.
Perhaps you could research your question and report what you find.


Do you have any research suggestions? I will report back any noteworthy findings.

Libraries, this thread, reference materials thread on this forum, Amazon Books, old newspaper articles, science journals and internet.
Remember, provable repeatable experiments, facts and evidence, NOT opinions.
Good Luck Researcher!
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Post by RedorBlue Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:40 pm

Admin wrote:Some great points made here:


Good video . Thanks for posting that . Extremely interesting .

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Post by Tree Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:48 pm

Maybe you’ll have heard these reports (and some video) that we apparently can’t see stars past a certain height (50k feet? I can’t remember). This seems like a proof that could actually make some heads turn in mainstream. If we could get a camera on one of these balloons that was pointed UP, maybe we could film them as they faded out as it traveled up? I feel like we need to film them continuously from being able to see them to not, otherwise they will simply make the excuse that you could never see the stars. So it probably needs to happen at night. Also, I haven’t actually seen any conclusive evidence for this theory of not being able to see the stars for myself so if any of you can link any videos on this would be appreciated. At the least we should investigate it I think.
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Post by Tree Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:03 pm

Could the stars just be like pin holes in a darkened dome above us with light shining through them? maybe there’s a bright heaven beyond this dark dome and the pin prick holes let some light in which is the stars we see. Is there some logic for this as a possibility? I guess it doesn’t really explain planets, since they move. But could it possibly explain stars?

Adding to this, is it possible comets could be temporary new holes in this dark dome? And their “tails” are actually just “light shining through the hole?” I’ve noticed there does not seem to be any parallax (movement of the comet in relation to the stars) on the time-lapse videos I’ve seen, though perhaps I just haven’t seen the right one.

One strange observation is that apparently comet tails “always point away from the sun”, which is sort of strange for the mainstream view being that these tails are supposed to be dragging behind the comet. But the actual mainstream view is supposed to be that the sun’s solar winds blow the tail away from the sun, even if it means blowing it in front of the comet, which is a really awkward explaination of these tails if you try to visualize that. It’s not surprising that they don’t advertise this part of the story because it sounds odd and doesn’t fit their image of a trailing comet very well.
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Post by Tree Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:23 am



This is a video from a guy called “Phuket Word”.

According to the heliocentric model, different stars should appear at different times of the year in the sky, right? But apparently, they do not. Is this confirmed? If so, this seems like an absolute globe killer! But they always have some sort of excuse for everything. What is their excuse for this anomaly?
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Post by dexter1914 Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Yesterday I captured those beautiful sun rays from my friend’s house! The sun is so close to our plane !!The Sun, Moon, and Stars Prove the Flat Earth - Page 9 9483d912

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Post by JayEs Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:00 pm

I have a question concerning star trails but it’s a little bit hard to explain, I’ll try my best.

As from my point of view (Austria / now in September) I see Ursa Minor and Ursa Major vertically in a line when I look to the north at 12am, at 4am they are heading in direction to northeast and are almost horizontally in a line.

12am (September)
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4am (September)
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However..

In November for instance, Ursa Minor and Major are already horizontally in a line at 12am. And later at 4am they are almost upside down.

12am (November)
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4am (November)
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It’s not about the trails, it’s more about the time changes or why they are not at the same spot every day at the same time. Does the speed change?

I hope you get my point. Why do you think this happens?

If there’s already an explanation, let me know! This literally keeps me up all night.
Thanks!
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Post by dexter1914 Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:40 pm

JayEs wrote:I have a question concerning star trails but it’s a little bit hard to explain, I’ll try my best.

As from my point of view (Austria / now in September) I see Ursa Minor and Ursa Major vertically in a line when I look to the north at 12am, at 4am they are heading in direction to northeast and are almost horizontally in a line.

12am (September)
The Sun, Moon, and Stars Prove the Flat Earth - Page 9 110

4am (September)
The Sun, Moon, and Stars Prove the Flat Earth - Page 9 210


However..

In November for instance, Ursa Minor and Major are already horizontally in a line at 12am. And later at 4am they are almost upside down.

12am (November)
The Sun, Moon, and Stars Prove the Flat Earth - Page 9 310

4am (November)
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It’s not about the trails, it’s more about the time changes or why they are not at the same spot every day at the same time. Does the speed change?

I hope you get my point. Why do you think this happens?

If there’s already an explanation, let me know! This literally keeps me up all night.
Thanks!
Hi friend! In my opinion (not an expert on star trails and constellations) this happens because the difference of 4 minutes between solar and sidereal/stellar days.
Solar day = 24 hours (the amount of time the sun takes to reach his starting point in the sky)
Sidereal/Stellar day = 23:56 hours (the amount of time the fixed stars take to reach their starting point in the sky)
This means that the stars are a bit faster than the sun. so 60 days (23 September - 23 November) X 4 minutes (difference per day) = 240 minutes (4 hours difference)
And if we compare September 23 04:00 am to November 23 00:00 we ll see the constellation a bit higher in November and this happens because of the 1 hour back world-time change which happens the last Sunday of October (clocks from 01:00 go back to 00:00) I think.
That's my opinion, maybe I am wrong somewhere. Let me know!
Check out Eric's last youtube video!!
Greetings and sorry for my english Very Happy

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Post by JayEs Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:50 pm

dexter1914 wrote:
Hi friend! In my opinion (not an expert on star trails and constellations) this happens because the difference of 4 minutes between solar and sidereal/stellar days.
Solar day = 24 hours (the amount of time the sun takes to reach his starting point in the sky)
Sidereal/Stellar day = 23:56 hours (the amount of time the fixed stars take to reach their starting point in the sky)
This means that the stars are a bit faster than the sun. so 60 days (23 September - 23 November) X 4 minutes (difference per day) = 240 minutes (4 hours difference)
And if we compare September 23 04:00 am to November 23 00:00 we ll see the constellation a bit higher in November and this happens because of the 1 hour back world-time change which happens the last Sunday of October (clocks from 01:00 go back to 00:00) I think.
That's my opinion, maybe I am wrong somewhere. Let me know!
Check out Eric's last youtube video!!
Greetings and sorry for my english Very Happy

Hey!

Thank you for your response! I've heard about the the Solar day/Stellar day difference, but I really need to look further into this subject. It sounds definitely possible and those 4 hours would make sense.

Btw your English is fine, don’t worry! Cool
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Post by Jack Aurora Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:45 pm

JayEs wrote:
Hi friend! In my opinion (not an expert on star trails and constellations) this happens because the difference of 4 minutes between solar and sidereal/stellar days.
Solar day = 24 hours (the amount of time the sun takes to reach his starting point in the sky)
Sidereal/Stellar day = 23:56 hours (the amount of time the fixed stars take to reach their starting point in the sky)
This means that the stars are a bit faster than the sun. so 60 days (23 September - 23 November) X 4 minutes (difference per day) = 240 minutes (4 hours difference)
And if we compare September 23 04:00 am to November 23 00:00 we ll see the constellation a bit higher in November and this happens because of the 1 hour back world-time change which happens the last Sunday of October (clocks from 01:00 go back to 00:00) I think.
That's my opinion, maybe I am wrong somewhere. Let me know!
Check out Eric's last youtube video!!
Greetings and sorry for my english Very Happy

Imagine for a moment that the whole thing is like a clock. All cogs and wheels.
The sidereal stars the biggest of the wheels. Always 4 minutes ahead of everything else.
Followed by the Sun wheel, then the moon, and then the wandering stars... and then some...

As a metaphor, almost like the Mayan calendar... maybe that's what the calendar represent... This spinning of the celestial lights from biggest to smallest. The finite inside the infinite.
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Post by JayEs Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:17 pm

Jack Aurora wrote: Imagine for a moment that the whole thing is like a clock. All cogs and wheels.
The sidereal stars the biggest of the wheels. Always 4 minutes ahead of everything else.
Followed by the Sun wheel, then the moon, and then the wandering stars... and then some...

As a metaphor, almost like the Mayan calendar... maybe that's what the calendar represent... This spinning of the celestial lights from biggest to smallest. The finite inside the infinite.

Ok, I think I’m beginning to understand.
It’s not just one duration of day, each "wheel" has its own pace so to speak. It’s one system but different parts.

Right?
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Post by Jack Aurora Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:59 pm

JayEs wrote:
Jack Aurora wrote: Imagine for a moment that the whole thing is like a clock. All cogs and wheels.
The sidereal stars the biggest of the wheels. Always 4 minutes ahead of everything else.
Followed by the Sun wheel, then the moon, and then the wandering stars... and then some...

As a metaphor, almost like the Mayan calendar... maybe that's what the calendar represent... This spinning of the celestial lights from biggest to smallest. The finite inside the infinite.

Ok, I think I’m beginning to understand.
It’s not just one duration of day, each "wheel" has its own pace so to speak. It’s one system but different parts.

Right?

It's is as if they all function in mutual agreement without agreement...
They function as one, yet as many.
None of any particular part is in control, and yet perfect control is maintained.
Very Taoists, as one perspective of it.

Also, watching the polar videos, our perception of a day is quite distorted.
One day to earth is one year to us humans.
I'm referring to the polar year.
6 months light 6 months dark.
One day.

We are counting time in miniscule ways, with seconds and hours and so called days and years.
What if one actually year to earth, is like 360 years to us?
10 years to earth is then 3600 years to us?
Happy birthday earth!!!
Here is a present!!!
Every 3600 years...hmmm, I see a pattern here...lol
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Post by JayEs Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:06 am

Jack Aurora wrote:It's is as if they all function in mutual agreement without agreement...
They function as one, yet as many.
None of any particular part is in control, and yet perfect control is maintained.
Very Taoists, as one perspective of it.

Also, watching the polar videos, our perception of a day is quite distorted.
One day to earth is one year to us humans.
I'm referring to the polar year.
6 months light 6 months dark.
One day.

We are counting time in miniscule ways, with seconds and hours and so called days and years.
What if one actually year to earth, is like 360 years to us?
10 years to earth is then 3600 years to us?
Happy birthday earth!!!
Here is a present!!!
Every 3600 years...hmmm, I see a pattern here...lol

It's pretty complex and never ceases to amaze me how everything fits perfectly together.
Thanks for explaining it so well!

Also thank you again @dexter1914 for your help!
You're right, Eric actually answers my question in his latest video.
Smile
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Post by naiveharry Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:43 am

Is there any explanation for meteor showers on flat earth ? I have been searching for this but have not found any thread discussing the same.
The heliocentric model attributes meteor shower to earth crossing a comet's path which leaves debris behind leading to the light show, but then how come we have periodic meteor shower every year December. One would assume that the lop-sided orbit of comets will not coincide with earth's orbit every year at the same time.

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Post by Russian Blue Cat Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:21 pm

naiveharry wrote:Is there any explanation for meteor showers on flat earth ? I have been searching for this but have not found any thread discussing the same.
The heliocentric model attributes meteor shower to earth crossing a comet's path which leaves debris behind leading to the light show, but then how come we have periodic meteor shower every year December. One would assume that the lop-sided orbit of comets will not coincide with earth's orbit every year at the same time.



Meteors are man made shot in the air to convince hive minded people we're on a spinning space ball

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They shoot those fiery balls in the picture above indeed, though there is also some kind of natural phenomenon of "shooting stars" possibly explained here
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