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Post by PacMan Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:03 pm

Yes, I mean only for you to look at the minute or two about the book and the research. The rest are parts of a 17h long series on creationism.

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Gravity Does Not Exist! - Page 8 Empty GRAVITY and challenging science with basic math

Post by Brian Johnston Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:58 pm

Not sure if this was posted, but very interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wymfYp18720

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Gravity Does Not Exist! - Page 8 Empty Experimental Evidence to prove the non-existent of Gravity

Post by Gemini Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:33 am

Hi All,

Like many others, I've seen the video of Eric Dubai debunking the gravity, and answering Dave difficult questions (at least this is what seems to be for new Flat Earthers). I thought of sharing with you an experimental way to prove that Gravity doesn’t exist, I am not sure if it will count or not, However, I feel its worth discussion with you all here.

As we know, following the scientific methodology we cannot give a label to a theory that its 100% correct, because if we do so we are actually going to destroy the foundation of the scientific methodology as this methodology is built on continuous learning, meaning there would always be a tiny percentage of doubt regardless of the evidences provided for things which we cannot observe or assumptions we've developed in our minds. I know the subject might seems to taking this a bit far or stretching but anyway let's give it a try. If we use Newton's formula, F= GMM/r^2 where Force equals the constant of gravity is multiplied by the mass of Object 1 and mass of Object 2 divided by the distance between the two masses raised to the second power. If we take this into account, this would mean that the mass of the Earth is so great that the balloon would have no choice but to be attracted to the Earth. Why is that? because we have Object 1 mass pulling on Object 2 mass and vice versa where Object mass 2 pulling on Object mass 1 which we then have to conclude that F1 = F2 and this we all know is wrong, and why its wrong? because the pulling force of both not equal. I mean that the force of the balloon that pulls the Earth is not equal to the force that the Earth pulls on the balloon! Given that, the balloon shouldn’t rise whatsoever but the reality is showing something else, something which Eric mentioned before makes more sense, that Objects follows its density equilibrium

What do you think of the above?

and would also like to pounder on the question, is there a force required! we know that the scientific community considers gravity a force, do we need a force to explain what we observe in the first matter? and if we need, can we 100% say that gravity force consists of pulling factor?

Another question that in

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Post by tycho_brahe Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:13 am

Gemini wrote:Hi All,

Like many others, I've seen the video of Eric Dubai debunking the gravity, and answering Dave difficult questions (at least this is what seems to be for new Flat Earthers). I thought of sharing with you an experimental way to prove that Gravity doesn’t exist, I am not sure if it will count or not, However, I feel its worth discussion with you all here.

As we know, following the scientific methodology we cannot give a label to a theory that its 100% correct, because if we do so we are actually going to destroy the foundation of the scientific methodology as this methodology is built on continuous learning, meaning there would always be a tiny percentage of doubt regardless of the evidences provided for things which we cannot observe or assumptions we've developed in our minds. I know the subject might seems to taking this a bit far or stretching but anyway let's give it a try. If we use Newton's formula, F= GMM/r^2 where Force equals the constant of gravity is multiplied by the mass of Object 1 and mass of Object 2 divided by the distance between the two masses raised to the second power. If we take this into account, this would mean that the mass of the Earth is so great that the balloon would have no choice but to be attracted to the Earth. Why is that? because we have Object 1 mass pulling on Object 2 mass and vice versa where Object mass 2 pulling on Object mass 1 which we then have to conclude that F1 = F2 and this we all know is wrong, and why its wrong? because the pulling force of both not equal. I mean that the force of the balloon that pulls the Earth is not equal to the force that the Earth pulls on the balloon! Given that, the balloon shouldn’t rise whatsoever but the reality is showing something else, something which Eric mentioned before makes more sense, that Objects follows its density equilibrium

What do you think of the above?

and would also like to pounder on the question, is there a force required! we know that the scientific community considers gravity a force, do we need a force to explain what we observe in the first matter? and if we need, can we 100% say that gravity force consists of pulling factor?

Another question that in

I was thinking the same thing. Science will use F = Gmm^2 to explain how the moon affects the tides. But for your balloon example they’ll completely ignore the gravity question and instead use the law of buoyancy stating the balloon is lighter than the air it displaces. The crazy part is let’s say it was 2 solid objects falling they’ll will skip the F=Gmm^2 and use F = m a or a = F/m where acceleration is directly proportional to its force and inversely proportional to its mass to explain why any object independent of its weight will fall with the same acceleration. To make things even more confusing they’ll say matter for the first equation is the amount of material in the matter while on in the 2nd equation matter is the force of gravity acting on the matter yet both are considered classical mechanics.
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Post by daride Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:38 am

No theory of gravity has ever been shown to produce useful results with more than 2 bodies. The results invariably become chaotic, because all objects affect each other, and end up inevitably crashing or flying away. Maintaining a stable orbit with 3+ bodies is nearly impossible. So now imagine how this would work in the solar system, with many gravitational bodies, or in the Milky Way, with billions. The probability of having a galaxy that is stable is unfathomably small. It's so small that you would have to conclude that a creator put it together.

Because gravity promoters tend to be atheists, they are simply assuming that gravity explains the movements of the stars, planets, solar systems, and galaxies. They have no way to ever test it. Something that cannot be tested is, by definition, not science. Therefore, gravity is not science but a religion.

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Post by Admin Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:39 pm

Cavendish Experiment Proves Gravity?



In 1797, Henry Cavendish, the British scientist, Freemason, and wealthy grandson of the Duke of Devonshire, created an experiment which he claimed successfully proved the existence of gravity, measured its constant, and provided accurate figures for the exact masses of the Earth, Sun, Moon, and Planets. How did Cavendish achieve this quantum leap for heliocentric pseudo-science? He fixed two large lead balls on opposite ends of a torsion balance and hung them from the roof of his shed. By watching and recording slight motions of the contraption via telescope through his shed window so his mass would not affect the reading, Cavendish claimed to have proven gravity. Two small lead balls were hung near the large ones and any motion observed towards one another was touted as being the influence of gravity.

Now, the Cavendish experiment has been widely criticized by the scientific community because never in over two centuries since its creation has anyone been able to replicate it! Firstly, the balls simply do not always attract one another as they must for the so-called gravitational constant to be constant at all. Sometimes the torsion balance turns towards the balls and sometimes away as it is impossible not to give some slight tremulous motion when interacting with it. Henry even complained in his notes how often as he was performing the measurement the contraption was still in oscillation. Secondly, since his calculated force of gravity was 10^39 weaker than the force of electro-magnetism, from which all material objects are composed, there is no control for the experiment which can factor out and positively differentiate the alleged gravitational force, from the known stronger electro-magnetic force. In other words, the balls could simply be attracting each other through static electricity, a known force existing in all things, billions of times stronger than gravity, and impossible to control for the experiment. Even though no one could replicate Cavendish’s findings, the experiment went down in history as a great success, and is still taught as veritable proof of universal gravitation in science textbooks today.
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Post by Lightning_Peasant Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:22 am

Eric's video reminded me of an article I came across last year about gravity and how "scientists" measured it on the smallest scale.

article: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/researchers-measure-the-gravity-exerted-by-a-90-milligram-object/

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In this article they said, "Unfortunately, studying gravity is extremely challenging because it's far and away the weakest of the forces." which is strange as it can hold so many people and objects to a ball. The same old excuse they love to program in their articles of it being so strong and weak at the same time. They go on to describe the experiment on how they are able to measure such small forces.

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They use a lot of technical words to describe how close they paid attention to details in order to account for various factors that could cause issues in this experiment. It doesn't matter how many technical words they use to pretend they created a vacuum as creating a perfect vacuum has proved impossible thus far on earth. Therefore describing it as so is a lie. They then admit towards the bottom:  "the researchers moved the sphere in a regular pattern, setting up a steady back-and-forth resonant attraction. The frequency of this resonance was carefully chosen to be very different from the natural resonances of the pendulum that the bar forms." aka we pushed the balls and called it gravity. This is so close to the cavendish experiment and just shows that they came up with a new bs story to keep the lie going.

"During the experiment, their separation varied from 2.5 millimeters to 5.8 millimeters. Overall, the researches estimate their system is capable of picking up accelerations as small as 2 x 10-11 meters/second2, although it would take about a half-day of monitoring to do so."

"Overall, the gravitational force here ended up being about 9 x 10-14 Newtons. The researchers also used their results to derive the gravitational constant. While this ends up being off by quite a bit (9 percent), it's still within the uncertainties of their experimental measurement."

The researchers claim to measure these findings with laser which could have the values easily manipulated with it being such a small value. They then use the gravitational constant to go with a usual downplay trick of "Oh, we don't have it all figured out to pass it off as more believable to normies." The gravitational constant claims that objects fall at the same rate. Terminal velocity exists and is demonstrable and repeatable. If terminal velocity exist then object stop accelerating. If objects stop accelerating then that disproves the gravitational constant as objects do not continue to fall at the same rate. Another fictitious experiment to keep the lie of gravity going by using scientific jargon most people aren't used to as well as reinforcing other lies. Is this Cavendish 2.0?

Edit: Something I just thought of after I posted this, how did they have more accurate measuring devices in 1797? How did Cavendish measure such a small unit of measurement but now with lasers and more advanced technology we aren't as accurate? Are the researchers not admitting that Cavendish was more accurate than their experiment therefore they are saying that measuring equipment in 1797 was more accurate. Sounds pretty bogus to me.


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