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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:19 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/08/2015

May 7, 2015 23:29:10 GMT eschaton said:
I was just making a distinction between different types of oils.
Canola, cotten seed, vegtable (soy) and or deep frying should defiantly be avoided.
If you say having avocados and coconut oil as part of your diet will cause dis-ease though
you are just spreading the "fear porn" you seem to hate so much.

avocado is not an Oil

Do you know the definition of a liquid product called OIL?

If you squeeze an item to get the OIL do not put the OIL in your mouth.

NO OIL
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:20 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/08/2015
Oil pulling is very good for your dental health, so I recommend putting coconut oil in your mouth for that, but I agree with Schpankme that you shouldn't swallow it. Oils and other foods that are so high in fat (like avocados, something like 80-90% fat) are NOT "healthy" and should be used sparingly if at all. I recommend you guys watch the following meta-study presentation and the necessity for a high-carb, low-fat, plant-based diet should become obvious.
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:21 pm

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I recently had the great pleasure of meeting the inspirational raw vegan duo Harley a.k.a. Durian Rider of 30bananasaday.com and his girlfriend Freelee a.k.a. The Banana Girl on one of their frequent visits here to Thailand. Harley and Freelee have been eating a high-raw, high-carb, low-fat, vegan diet for several years and it shows! They both have rock-hard abs, perfect complexion, brilliant shining eyes, inexhaustible stamina, loving energy and great positive attitudes. They are also both top-level athletes, champion marathon runners and distance cyclists. Harley often cycles over 200-300 kilometers a day and Freelee once cycled 3,000 kilometers across Australia all powered by nothing but raw fruits and vegetables.



I tried running around the park with Harley for a while which was quite amusing, like a human remake of the Tortoise vs. the Hare (minus the underdog victory - it was more like Tortoise vs. Cheetah). He jogged slowly with me at my sloth's pace until my face was red, feet were blistered, and breath was gone. Through pants and wheezes I managed to say that I'd meet him back at the juice bar and he took off like a drag car and was literally a tiny speck in the distance within 10 seconds. Nobody comes even close to passing Harley on foot or bike, and he puts the words "Go Vegan" in English and Thai on the backs of his shirts/shorts so everyone can understand why they just got owned.



Thanks so much to Harley and Freelee for all the great advice and interesting conversation, for the fun, informative videos and constant inspiration. For everyone else have a look at their videos and websites to learn more about how to increase the peace and maintain the highest possible levels of health.








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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:22 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/09/2015
Speak for yourself ziming, people enslaving, torturing, murdering and eating my friends rubs me the wrong way. 





How about you recover from your vampiric flesh-eating addiction and realize that Freelee's compassion should be venerated not labeled "fanatic."
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:23 pm

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"What is your definition of holocaust? Is it a massacre of human beings, or a massacre of innocent beings? In America alone we murder 10 billion land animals and 18 billion marine animals every year. Not for health, survival, sustenance, or self-defense - people eat meat, cheese, milk and eggs for 4 reasons: habit, tradition, convenience, and taste. I want to ask you to use some empathy right now. When I say empathy what I'm saying is place yourself in the position of the animals and start to view this issue from the animal's point of view - from the victim's point of view. When you examine any form of injustice, whether humans are victims or animals are victims, please remember the victim's point of view. Right now at this very moment on American highways there are no less than 5,000 concentration camp trucks - trucks that we've constructed. Inside these trucks there are living, terrified, innocent beings. These trucks are being driven to concentration camp slaughterhouses that we've carefully constructed all across America. When the trucks arrive the animals are so frightened they won't even get off the truck. They're not stupid. They know what's next. So people go on the trucks with electric prods and force them to walk down the chutes to their own deaths...



You know what's more insane than that? Meat-eaters. Walking around like their lifestyle isn't causing any harm. Like it's normal and natural to be consuming violence and death. How would you feel if the day you were born somebody else had already planned the day of your execution? That's what it's like to be a cow, pig, chicken or turkey on this planet. I think this type of behavior is inexcusable and unbecoming of a species that claims to understand right from wrong. The animals have not done one single thing to us to deserve the wrath and cruelty that we hurl on them." -Gary Yourofsky




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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:24 pm

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Why do people think it's morally reprehensible to murder and eat other human beings, but murdering other animals and eating their flesh is fine? We find it unethical to kill and consume a certain chosen few coveted species like dogs, cats, horses and dolphins, but the murder and consumption of deer, cows, pigs, and birds is just fine. Seriously, what is up with the speciesism humanity? Are we all really this hypocritical? It has been proven againand againand againand again that animal flesh is NOT a healthy or necessary requirement of human nutrition yet every year over 150 billion land animals are bred, slaughtered and eaten by us genocidal blood-thirsty hypocritical speciesist gluttons. Animals want to be our friends! Just like all humans want to be loved, to be free and happy, so do the animals. They want us to love them and feed them, not eat them! Watch these incredibly cute and inspiring animal videos and if haven't already, make the decision to help increase the peace and go vegetarian today! 













Animals are Friends NOT Food!

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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:25 pm

Posted by graham on 05/09/2015
I've been a vegi twice in my life.
Once when I was dating a white witch who wouldn't kiss me if I ate meat.
That lasted for two weeks (hey, I was 17!)...
and another stint of being vegi which lasted for around 2-3 years.
I suffer from Inflammatory Bowel Disease but I've been in remission for maybe a year.
I'm strongly considering going vegan now, it's been around 2 years since I started eating meat again and apart from putting some weight on (I'm SUPER skinny, naturally) it's not done me ANY good.
I use the toilet way more, which is a sign my IBD will flare-up.
I've made clear connections, through experience, that meat aggravates my condition.
A side note: I'm also a smoker (still not tried the breathing techniques yet Eric - oh, I PMd you FB. I've quit FB so I'll get you on here or via email)...
I smoke tobacco and cannabis.
I HAVE to buy tobacco that contains no additives, otherwise if I smoke a regular cig 24 hours later I have a VERY bad stomach, I go flush in the face and feel hot/clammy.
I get NOTHING like that when I smoke more 'pure' tobacco, that said I want to quit. I've quit twice in my life. Once for a couple of months only, and another time for a couple of years.
The weed *sometimes* makes me use the loo  but I get no pain.
I wanted to say, meat contains no life-force, no Chi.
Fresh fruit and veg does, and it's pretty clear that for me being vegi or better still, vegan is the way to go.
It's hard because my wife and kids won't like me doing that, simply because it is more effort in the kitchen to make more meals, hopefully they'll follow suit though, so then we don't need to make different meals for each of us.
Thanks for the links to the books Eric. Books are good! :-D
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:25 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/09/2015
Hey Graham, don't worry about the vegetarian/vegan labels or going cold turkey, just set the intention to increase your consumption of plant products and decrease consumption of murdered animal corpses/excretions, then continue to slowly transition until you settle into your far better, far healthier, far more compassionate, far more energized lifestyle. Just make sure to eat enough carbohydrate calories every day, bananas are the best (most nutrient dense food on the Earth). I eat as many as I can every morning after a tall glass of water and digestion/elimination will be top-notch. The rest of the day eat lots of fruits, vegetables, rice and potatoes and you'll be charged up. Check out Freelee's Raw Til 4 and Harley's book Carb the Fuck Up! 

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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:26 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/10/2015
I don't eat any supplements nor do most of the healthy vegetarian/vegans I know. Iron is not a problem. Low B12 is a modern world / soil depletion issue, not a vegan issue. There are more meat-eaters with B12 deficiencies than vegans, and B12 isn't a vital vitamin for healthy people anyway. If you find it to be an issue just buy it in a bottle and keep eating healthy and compassionately, no need to murder animals for their flesh. Long-term high-raw, high-carb, low-fat vegan blood tests are perfect:





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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:28 pm

Posted by tele on 05/10/2015

According to stenographic transcripts translated by Hugh Trevor-Roper of conversations between Hitler and his inner circle which took place between July 1941 and November 1944, Hitler regarded himself as a vegetarian. These conversations were gathered together under the title Hitler's Table Talk. Written notes taken at the time were transcribed and then were edited by Martin Bormann.[4] According to these transcripts dated 11 November 1941, Hitler said, "One may regret living at a period when it's impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there's one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian." On 12 January 1942, he said, "The only thing of which I shall be incapable is to share the sheiks' mutton with them. I'm a vegetarian, and they must spare me from their meat."[5] In a diary entry dated 26 April 1942, Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a committed vegetarian, writing,

An extended chapter of our talk was devoted by the Führer to the vegetarian question. He believes more than ever that meat-eating is harmful to humanity. Of course he knows that during the war we cannot completely upset our food system. After the war, however, he intends to tackle this problem also. Maybe he is right. Certainly the arguments that he adduces in favor of his standpoint are very compelling.[6]
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:29 pm

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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:29 pm

Posted by tele on 05/10/2015

Adolf's speeches sound just like a loony ranting if you can't understand German and are bias bc of Jew indoctrination, but it all makes sense if you read the transcripts and open your mind.
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:30 pm

Posted by madhatter on 05/10/2015
I went to the farm near my house the other week, safe to say I don't eat lamb any more!!????


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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:31 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/11/2015
Should we treat Human Viruses or stop causing them?

Measles evolved as a divergence from rinderpest virus, this happened because humans domesticated and ate cattle
flesh; this virus killed about 200 million people worldwide, and kills another 300,000 yearly:

Camel: Smallpox - Killed 300 million, and kills another 200,000 yearly.
Pigs: Whooping Cough, meningitis
Chickens: Typhoid Fever (Typhoid Mary)
Ducks: Influenza
Water Buffalo: Leprosy
Horses: Common Cold
Monkey: HIV

"The sheep have been taught to eat Meat & Dairy, in the land of milk and honey, while they run from stories about the 
big bad wolf, never worrying about what fate the farmer has in store for them."
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:34 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015

May 15, 2015 16:34:57 GMT @lobellver said:
Apr 30, 2015 3:51:39 GMT Admin said:
Humans have lateral jaw movement and flat molars for grinding grains and vegetables whereas natural flesh eaters have no lateral jaw movement and scores of huge fangs for biting and ripping. Humans have short, weak fingernails whereas carnivores and omnivores have long, strong, sharp claws for cutting through skin and flesh.
Humans cook their food and make tools
we don't have carnivore teeth
nor strong fingernails

Better argument is the saliva
There is no real difference between people who eat meat and people who eat vedgetables
You don't see meat eaters dying at 40 years
some people [live to] 80 having been carnivour

If we weren't really supposed to eat meat, we would suffer of diarrhea.
fruit your body is not supposed (by design) to eat

I'm not saying you guys are wrong

Why do you think Hu-Man should kill animals and eat body parts?   Because  Hu-Man can make  Tools that Kill, and
Fire that cooks.  Unfortunately, human can not over come the  High Fat and Cholesterol consumed on the carnivore
diet, that causes almost all disease of the human body.

Did you think to come in this Topic and tell the healthiest people on the face of the Earth about  Eating  Body  Parts?

Are you aware that all nutritional studies, when comparing lifestyles, always use the VEGETARIANS who live longer
and with less disease then the Hu-Man carnivore?

Okinawans of Japan are known as "the longest-lived people in the world".

Okinawan Diet:
rice
vegetables
sweet potatoes
soy and other legumes
less than 2% animal products, eaten during holidays and festivals

Do I need to point out the absurdity of having 2% Animal Products in your Diet?
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:35 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015

May 15, 2015 22:30:55 GMT @lobellver said:
I'm actually thinking to stop eating meat.
You must KILL to consume Death.  The world is full of sick and diseased meat eaters,  who are  Fat and Obese,  driving
up the cost of health care and promoting Social Health Insurance.

I eat 80% to 90% Carbohydrates;  anyone telling you that  Carbs make you Fat is Programmed  to repeat and not help
you, the animals, or the environment.

You're not spending money wisley if your trying to survive on Animal Fat and Cholesterol. The average domesticated
animal requires five (5) times the water and food that you do, to produce one pound of meat.  This is not the rational
behavior of an intelligent race.

Here's what you can cure immediately just by removing Oil and Animal Products from your diet:
Heart Disease, High Blood Pressure, Type II Diabetes, Kidney Stones, Chronic Fatigue, Erectile Dysfunction, Gout and
Prostate Issues.

Read:
John McDougall, MD - The Starch Solution
T. Colin Campbell, PhD - The China Study
Michael Greger, MD - NutritionFacts.org
Caldwell B. Esselstyn, Jr., MD - Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease
Neal Barnard, MD - Program for Reversing Diabetes
Harley Johnstone, (Durianrider), FAF - CTFU ebook
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:39 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015
Eggs are about the worst thing you can eat, high in Cholesterol, which your body does not require, and when combined 
with Fat Coats and eventually clogs the Arteries.

You seem to be sneaking up on Plant-Based, instead of adhering to the advice of those who thrive on Plant-Based.

Let go of sticking body parts in our mouth!
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:40 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/16/2015
And the fact that our biology was clearly DESIGNED to be frugivore/herbivore is not an "evolutionist argument," as Lobellver's stating, (I completely destroyed the "science" of evolution at the end of my Flat Earth Conspiracy book) rather it is an INTELLIGENT DESIGN argument.


And avocados are 90% fat and coconut oil is 100% fat. These are NOT health foods and should be eaten veeeeerrry sparingly if at all (I recommend not at all). Read 80/10/10 and Schpankme's recommendations and you'll see that these diet guru's constantly talking about "healthy fats" have no idea what they're talking about. "Healthy fat" intake is below 10% your calorie content for the day, where most people (including vegans eating lots of avocados and oils) are waaaaaaayyy above that, thinking they're consuming lots of so-called "healthy fats."





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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:41 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/16/2015
Also, Legito's comments here are ridiculous, claiming he "doesn't feel good or mentally connected" when eating potatoes, yet he eats avocados for breakfast every morning!? Potatoes have the carb/protein/fat ratio that humans thrive on, which is why many cultures around the world have potato, rice or other starchy carbohydrate as a staple food. There is NO culture anywhere that has avocado or other incredibly high-fat food as a staple, because it's too full of fat to be a healthy staple! Please research this issue, look at Dr. Graham, Greger, McDougall, Esselstien, and other healthy doctor's advice/research, not some supposedly spiritual woo-woo non-sense diet that tells you to stay away from potatoes and tomatoes but avocado for breakfast every morning is fine, lol. The Yin/Yang is a symbol for the Sun/Moon over the flat Earth, not some symbol telling you to eat avocados instead of potatoes, Legito!



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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:41 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015
John McDougall MD, describes what many people eat is actually food poisoning.



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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:42 pm

Posted by eschaton on 05/16/2015

I'm not disagreeing with you but I have seen avocados on a similar "Gods Pharmacy" chart saying the avocado shape mimics a woman's womb/cervix with the one large seed, it also takes from blossom to ripe fruit 9 months to produce. The ancient Aztecs considered avocado to be the fertility fruit, and named it after their word for testicle because of its shape.

So maybe it is good in moderation (2-3 a week maybe) for pregnant women or men looking for fertility?

Intuitively that vibrant green color just makes it seem like a fruit that should be consumed. Green is the color of the heart chakra and I've heard that they can benefit the heart. www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=5
Is it not true that some monounsaturated fats can help the heart without adverse effects?

I'll admit that I probably make guacamole a little too often Very Happy but I wouldn't say I over do it (and I'm not fat at all). I'll try to cut back on them, though I don't think I stop eating avocados all together (as of now anyway). I've been a vegetarian (pescetarian at first) for at least 6-7 years but I haven't been able to completely cut out dairy (cheese mostly) so you guys are doing better than me.

So I guess to me it just seems weird if they were put here as a vibrant fruit on a tree yet not meant to be consumed (in some amount anyway). Just my thoughts though and I'll keep researching it.
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:42 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/16/2015
I'm not saying never to eat avocado, I'm warning people about eating it every day for breakfast like it's some healthy staple food (bananas are by far the best healthy staple breakfast food). As you said, it's clearly meant for extraneous circumstances when you need to put on fat like if you're nursing or malnourished. God created it for a reason, it does make a yummy guacamole! People just need to be conscious and realistic about what a healthy carb/protein/fat ratio looks like, and eating avocados daily doesn't fit that profile.
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:43 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015
Neal Barnard MD discusses the science behind food addiction.



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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:43 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015
TEDx Talks
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:44 pm

Posted by schpankme on 05/16/2015
Debunking the Paleo Diet

Dr. Christina Warinner has excavated around the world, from the Maya jungles of Belize to the Himalayan mountains 
of Nepal,  and  she  is pioneering the biomoleculer investigation of archaeological dental calculus to study long-term 
trends in human health and diet.  She obtained her Ph.D. from Harvard University in 2010, specializing in ancient DNA 
analysis and Paleo Dietary reconstruction.



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