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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:22 pm

Posted by vortexkitten on 08/05/2015
Hi Everybody,

Greetings Eric :-) 

Eric, I am going to put you on the spot.
We here have been getting into eating VERY differently recently since discovering the flat truth here and who my friends are again, but for real this time.
So my humble request Eric, your favorite meal as recipe posted here that I/and ALL may cook and taste it.

Being new to eating/trying Vegan, I find it quite hard to know what goes with what, what things compliment each other and so on.
or can you recommend a good easy Vegan cookbook.

I can see it now available online: The International Flat Earth Research Society Cookbook. 
200 easy recipes :-)
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Re: Stop Eating Your Friends! (Go Vegan)

Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:22 pm

Posted by Admin on 08/06/2015
Hey Vortexkitten, thanks for the comment! Raw foods are definitely superior to cooked foods since a good portion of the nutrients and enzymes get cooked out, but people who try to eat 100% raw food often come upon another problem which is getting enough calories every day from only raw foods (much easier said than done, especially long-term). So I recommend eating a fully raw breakfast every morning and afternoons/evenings eating high-carb low-fat cooked meals is fine. For breakfast eat as many bananas as you can or other fruits/smoothie. Fruits are always the top tier simple carbohydrates, but they don't keep you full for long, so the second tier complex carbs are rice, potatoes and corn, then for third tier carbs you've got pasta, breads etc. As for my favorite cooked dishes, I like Thai/Indian curries like panang, masaman, gang graree etc. You can find lots of great vegan recipe books/videos online then tweak them to suit your tastes 
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:24 pm

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look how good this kind of shit looks. this is a perfect cooked vegan dish. 

like eric was saying, 100% raw is super hard to get your calories as i've witnessed in myself. this is the kind of dish you can make early in the week and eat it a at least a few nights a week. these big type meals make it easier for me anyway.

eliminating the animal products and moving to fresh fruit in the morning alone will do wonders for your health. vegan is the way to go guys
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The latest couple of videos from Dr Greger on YouTube are interesting:




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Taken from Tumblr (apologies if any links are broken).

VEGAN MASTER POST

MORALITY AND VISUAL AIDS

There’s No Such Thing As Humane Animal Farming
Inside A Slaughterhouse 
Over 30 MILLION male chicks are mutilated and ground up alive each year in ONE FACILITY ALONE 
The Truth Behind The Dairy Industry
Free Range Myth (basically, they have maybe 30 feet to roam around in instead of five)
Why Honey Isn’t Vegan (another source)
New horrific images in a decisive year for the fur industry 

We torture and kill 2 billion animals every week.

WATCH WHAT YOU PAY FOR. (dairy)

WATCH WHAT YOU PAY FOR. (eggs)

Earthlings

From Farm to Fridge

Circuses in 60 Seconds
Horse Racing in 60 Seconds
The Fur Industry in 60 Seconds
The Dairy Industry in 60 Seconds
The Down Industry in 60 Seconds
AirCruelty in 60 Seconds
Factory Farming in 60 Seconds
China Fur Trade in 60 Seconds
Puppy Mills in 60 Seconds
Animal Testing in 60 Seconds

oh and btw no… more animals are not killed via crop harvesting than via animal agriculture

ENVIRONMENTAL 




FUCK ZOOS AND CIRCUSES 

Ten Facts About Zoos You Don’t Want To Know
11 Facts about Circus Animal Abuse
Animals in Entertainment: Circuses
Ringling Bros. Infographic
“We need to abolish all zoos,” says Britain’s most famous zoo owner Damian Aspinall.

FUCK ANIMAL TESTING

In a Move Surprising No One, Animals Feel Emotions
Rats feel empathy (so much so that they will selflessly give up their own food - chocolate chips, no less - to a rat having a bad day who didn’t get any.) And we still subject them to brutal testing.
Animal experimentation: cruel and unnecessary (moremore)
Animal Testing Investigation - Imperial London, England, UK
10 Amazing Facts About Animal Sentience
Coldblooded Does Not Mean Stupid
Does animal testing help human medicine? 33 facts to consider.

FEIGNED CONCERN FOR MIGRANT WORKERS

People working in slaughterhouses are at a far higher chance of being perpetrators of domestic violence due to traumadesensitisation and thenormalisation of violence, compared with the general population. They are also much more likely than average to have problems with alcohol abuse and with mental health issues like PTSD from working under extremely stressful conditions. Unfortunately these are most often poor immigrants with no other choice. These are the same slaughterhouses who process animals regardless of whether they are factory farmed, free range, organic or grass fed. [url=http://www.amic.org.au/SiteMedia/w3svc116/Uploads/Documents/OHS Reference Guide - Part1 Feb 2009.pdf]In 2004/5 there were 2270 injury claims[/url] made in the meat processing industry, most of which were due to falls, injuries with knives and ‘body stressing’. People working in tanneries to make leather from the skin of animals that have been killed are exposed to numerous dangerous chemicals (chromium being the worst). The chemicals can cause cancer, skin diseasesrespiratory illnesses while the machinery is also dangerous and can result in amputations. In India, people have died due to the exposure to these chemicals, due to unsafe working conditions. People have also died in Bangladesh and are affected by the chemicals in a multitude of ways. These chemicals can also leach into the water supply and affect the air and soil quality, which in turn causes illnesses and diseases in nearby populations.

WAHHHH VEGANISM IS EXPENSIVE

Vegan on $2 a day 

Vegan on $4.00 a Day 

Vegan on $5 a day
 
Vegan on $10 a day

Vegan on $15 a Week

18 Tips for Minimizing Your Food Costs + Final $2 a Day Menu

Vegan Dollar Menu (Vegan for $3 a Day)

Eating Vegan on $21 a Week (The Food Stamp Budget)

Eating a Healthy Vegan Diet for Less Than $5 a Day

Vegan on $10 a Day (or less!)

Vegan on a Budget: Tips for Creating Delicious and Affordable Meals

6 Tips to Eat Vegan on a Budget

Here is a prison that went vegetarian soley because of it being cheaper

Junk Food Costs More Than Healthy Food

4 billion people on this planet live on an almost exclusively vegan diet due to poverty.

The less people eating meat, the cheaper produce gets for everyone.

"WE EVOLVED TO EAT MEAT” (Evolution is BS anyway but for argument's sake)

Ancient Humans Mostly Vegetarian, ‘Paleolithic Diet’ Critic Says
Ancient Egyptians Had Vegetarian Diet, Mummy Study Shows
A Grassy Trend in Human Ancestors’ Diets
Even Our Ancestors Never Really Ate the “Paleo Diet”
Our ancestors did not eat a Paleolithic diet

HEALTH

Plant based diets are superior to animal product inclusive diets and can prevent, treat, and reverse nearly all of the top 15 causes of death in the USx x xx x x x x 

Whole-food vegan diets rich in omega-3s may treat and prevent many autoimmune disorders (study) (Vegan sources of Omega 3s)
Tennis Star Venus Williams follows raw vegan diet after autoimmune disease diagnosis
Why I Chose Vegan: Coping with IBS
Veganism and rheumatoid arthritis 
Managing IBS while Adhering to a Vegan Diet 
Diet and Arthritis
“A 2009 research review indicated that vegan diets tend to be higher in dietary fibre, magnesium, folic acid, vitamin C, vitamin E, and iron“ (x)
Veganism and Anemia
Natural calciumiron, and b12 for the vegan diet.
Pregnancy and the Vegan Diet
It is entirely possible to be vegan even if you are allergic to soygluten, or have oral allergy syndrome. Here’s a great resource to help out anyone suffering from food sensitivities.
For anyone out there who has anemiadiabetes, or crohn’s disease.

Pink Slime, which makes up 25% or more of your beef
How It’s Made: Hot Dogs
[url=http://www.redgfubcs.org/masparayamines/Nutricion y salud/vegetarian art1.pdf]Low or no meat consumption also decreases your risk of mortality from degenerative disease, and increases your life expectancy[/url].
Meat and Cheese Consumption Linked to Earlier Death
Risks: More Red Meat, More Mortality (another source)
5 good reasons cutting meat can improve your life
Hormone Growth Promoters Fed to Beef Cattle Linked to Adverse Impacts on Male Sexual Development
Eggs are not healthy, nutritious, or safe, according to USDA.

EVERY FUCKING VITAMIN, MINERAL AND OTHER NUTRIENTS CAN BE ATTAINED THROUGH PLANT BASED SOURCES AND TO PROVE IT HERE’S A HUGE FUCKING LIST

VITAMIN A/BETA-CAROTENE – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, apricots, avocados, bananas, broccoli, cabbage, cacao/chocolate, cantaloupe, carrots, cayenne pepper, celery, cherries, chlorella, garlic, grapefruit, green vegetables (leafy), green peppers, honeydew, kale, kelp, lucuma powder, mango, nori, oranges, papaya, parsley, peas, persimmons, pineapple, prunes, pumpkin, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), sweet potato, tomato, watermelon, wheat, winter squash, wheatgrass, yams, yellow fruits, yellow squash and yellow vegetables (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN B-1/THIAMINE – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, avocados, barley, beans, broccoli, cacao/chocolate, chlorella, dates, figs, garlic, grains (all), greens (all), kelp, lentils, nutritional yeast, onions, parsley, peas, pecans, prunes, raisins, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), vegetables (all), wheatgrass, wild rice and yams (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN B-2/RIBOFLAVIN – alfalfa sprouts, apples, apricots, asparagus, avocados, bananas, beans, black currants, broccoli, cacao/chocolate, cashews, cherries, chlorella, dates, figs, garlic, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), kelp, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, nuts, okra, onions, parsley, pineapple, prunes, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), watercress, watermelon, wheatgrass and wild rice (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN B-3/NIACIN – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apricots, asparagus, avocados, bananas, cacao/chocolate, cantaloupe, chlorella, corn, dates, figs, garlic, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), kelp, lucuma powder, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, nuts, onions, parsley, peas, plums, potato, prunes, raspberries, rice (brown/wild), seeds (all), squash, soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, tomato, tempeh, watermelon and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN B-5/PANTOTHENIC ACID (destroyed by heat) – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, asparagus, avocados, beans, broccoli, cabbage, cacao/chocolate, carrots, cauliflower, chlorella, corn, flax (oil/seeds), grains (all), green vegetables, legumes, mushrooms (shiitake), nutritional yeast, nuts, oats, onions, oranges, papaya, peas, pineapple, potato, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), tomato, walnuts, watermelon, wheatgerm, wheatgrass and yams (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN B-6/PYRIDOXINE (destroyed by heat) – alfalfa sprouts, apples, asparagus, avocados, bananas, barley, beans, beets, bell peppers, blueberries, buckwheat, cabbage, cantaloupe, carrots, chlorella, corn, flax (oil/seeds), grains (all), grapes, green vegetables (leafy), lemon, mango, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, nuts, onions, oranges, peas, plum, prunes, raisins, squash, soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), sweet potato, tomato, watermelon, wheatbran, wheatgerm, wheatgrass and yams

B-12/CYANOCOBALAMIN (destroyed by heat) – barley, beans, chlorella, dulse, grains (all), grapes (concord), kelp, mustard greens, nori, nuts, plums, prunes, sauerkraut (unpasteurized), seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), wheatgerm and wheatgrass and EAT LOTS OF UNWASHED (i.e., some soil intact)ORGANIC FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. You can also add Red Star nutritional yeast to your meals.

B-15/PANGAMIC ACID (destroyed by heat) – almonds, apricot seeds, brown rice, cabbage, chlorella, grains (all), juniper berries, nutritional yeast, nuts, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds (all), sprouts (all), sunflower seeds, unwashed vegetables and wheatgrass

B-17/AMYGDALIN/LAETRILE (destroyed by heat) – almonds, apple seeds, apricot kernels, barley, blackberries, brown rice, buckwheat, cherry seeds, chia seeds, celery, chlorella, cranberries, elderberries, flax (oil/seeds), garlic, grains (all), macadamia, millet, mung beans, nectarine seeds, oats, peach seeds, pear seeds, plum seeds, raspberries, rye, sesame seeds, sprouts (all), strawberries and wheatgrass

BIOTIN (B Complex) – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, bananas, beans, brown rice, chlorella, corn, fruits (all), grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), grapes, nutritional yeast, nuts, okra, peanuts, raisins, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, strawberries, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

CHOLINE (B Complex) – avocados, beans, bean sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, chlorella, corn, fruits (all), grains (all), green beans, green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), lentils, nutritional yeast, nuts, peanuts, peas, seeds (all), soy, spinach, wheat, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

FOLIC ACID (B Complex) (destroyed by heat) – alfalfa sprouts, apricots, asparagus, avocados, beans, beet greens, broccoli, buckwheat sprouts, cantaloupe, cauliflower, chlorella, citrus fruits, cucumber, grains (all), grapes, green vegetables (leafy), kelp, oranges, papaya, peas, pecans, plums, prunes, raisins, rye, soy, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), sunflower seeds, sweet potato, walnuts, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

INOSITOL (B Complex) – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, artichokes, barley, beans, beets, blackberries, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cantaloupe, chlorella, corn, fruit (all), garlic, grains (all), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), lima beans, nutritional yeast, nuts, oatmeal, oats, onions, oranges, peanuts, peas, raisins, spirulina, sunflower seeds, vegetables (all), wheatgerm and wheatgrass

PABA/PARA-AMINOBENZOIC ACID (B Complex) – beans, brown rice, chlorella, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), molasses (unrefined), mushrooms, nutritional yeast, spinach, wheatbran, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

VITAMIN C/ASCORBIC ACID (destroyed by heat) – alfalfa sprouts, apples, asparagus, beets, berries (all), broccoli, cabbage, cacao/chocolate, cantaloupe, cauliflower, celery, cherries, chlorella, citrus fruits, cucumber, garlic, grapefruit, green vegetables (leafy), green peppers, guava, honeydew, kale, kelp, kidney beans, kiwi, kumquats, lemon, lime, lucuma powder, lychee, mango, onions, oranges, papaya, parsley, peas, persimmons, pineapple, potato, radish, raspberries, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, sweet potato, tomato, watercress, watermelon, wheatgrass and yams (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN D/CALCIFEROL – alfalfa sprouts, avocados, basil, carrots, chlorella, fenugreek (powder/seeds), garlic, green vegetables (leafy), mushrooms (shiitake), papaya, parsley, seeds (all), spirulina, sunflower seeds, SUNLIGHT, sweet potato, watercress and wheatgrass

VITAMIN D2/ERGOCALCIFEROL – alfalfa sprouts, chlorella, spirulina, SUNLIGHT, yeast

VITAMIN E/TOCOPHEROL – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apples, asparagus, avocados, barley, blackberries, broccoli, brown rice, cacao/chocolate, carrots, cherries, chlorella, corn, dandelion greens, dulse, flax (oil/seeds), fruit (all), grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, leeks, nuts, oats, olive oil, oranges, parsley, parsnips, peanuts, quinoa, seeds (all), spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, sunflower seeds, sweet potato, tomato, vegetable oils, wheatgerm and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

VITAMIN F/UNSATURATED FATTY ACIDS (destroyed by heat) – açaí, almonds, avocados, chlorella, fruits (all), garlic, ginger, nuts, olive oil, oranges, parsley, peanuts, pecans, root vegetables, seeds (all), soy, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), sunflower seeds, vegetable oil, wheatgerm, wheat and wheatgrass

VITAMIN K/PHYLLOQUINONE – alfalfa sprouts, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, cayenne pepper, chlorella, corn, ginger, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), kale, kelp, mushrooms, oats, oatmeal, oats, peas, potato, root vegetables, rye, safflower oil, seaweed, soy, spinach, strawberries, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

VITAMIN P/BIOFLAVONOIDS (destroyed by heat) – apricots, blackberries, buckwheat, cherries, chlorella, citrus fruits (inner rind), currants, grapefruit, grapes, juniper berries, lemon, oranges, parsley and plums

VITAMIN T (very little known) – alfalfa sprouts, chlorella, plantain, sesame seeds, sesame butter (raw) and some vegetables oils

VITAMIN U (very little known) – alfalfa sprouts, cabbage (raw), celery (raw), chlorella and green vegetables (leafy and raw)

ALLYL SULFIDES – chives, garlic, leeks and onions

ALPHA-CAROTENE – berries (all), broccoli, carrots, chlorella, corn, green vegetables (leafy), oranges, peaches, pumpkin, seaweed and sweet potatoes

ALPHA-LIPOIC ACID – broccoli, potatoes and spinach

ANTHOCYANINS – black currants, blueberries, cherries, cranberries, raspberries, red cabbage and strawberries

ARGININE – apples, apricots, beans, berries (all), cacao/chocolate, coconut, eggplant, grains (all), nuts, pineapple, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except celery and turnips) (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

BETA-SITOSTEROL – açaí, chlorella, fruits (all) and green vegetables (leafy)

BIOFLAVONOIDS – apricots, blackberries, black currants, blueberries, buckwheat, cantaloupe, cherries, citrus fruits, citrus skins (inner rind), cranberries, elderberries, gooseberries, grapefruit, huckleberries, lemon, onions, papaya, parsley, peppers, persimmons, plums, prunes, pomegranate, raisins, raspberries, red grapes (with seeds), strawberries, tomato and walnuts

BORON – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apples, beans, cabbage, carrots, dates, filberts, grapes, green vegetables (leafy), hazelnuts, kelp, pears, plums, prunes, raisins, soy and wheat

CATECHIN – berries (all), black tea, cacao/chocolate, green tea and rhubarb (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

CALCIUM – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds (234 milligrams per 100 gram serving), apricots, avocados, beans, brazil nuts, broccoli, cabbage, carob, carrots, cauliflower, celery, chickpeas (150 milligrams per 100 gram serving), chlorella, coconut, cornmeal, dandelion greens, dulse, figs, filberts, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), hazelnuts, hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), hijiki sea vegetable (1,400 milligrams per 100 gram serving), kelp, lemon, lentils, lettuce, lucuma powder, maca powder, mango, mesquite powder, millet, miso, nuts, oats, onions, oranges, parsley (203 milligrams per 100 gram serving), prunes, raisins, seaweed, sesame seeds (1,160 milligrams per 100 gram serving), soy (226 milligrams per 100 gram serving), spirulina, sprouts (all), sunflower seeds, watercress, wheatgrass, and yams

CHLORINE – alfalfa sprouts, avocados, bananas, beets, blackberries, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, celery, chlorella, coconut, cucumber, dandelion greens, dates, eggplant, figs, kale, kelp, lettuce, mushrooms, oats, onions, peaches, peas, pineapple, radish, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, sunflower seeds, sweet potato, swiss chard, tomato, watercress, watermelon, wheat and wheatgrass

CHLOROPHYLL – blue-green algae, chlorella, spirulina and wheatgrass

CHROMIUM – apples, bananas, barley, basil, beans, beets, black pepper, broccoli, cacao/chocolate, carrots, chlorella, corn oil, dulse, garlic, grains (all), grapes, hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, mineral water, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, onions, oranges, raisins, seaweed, spirulina, tomato, walnuts and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

COBALT – alfalfa sprouts, apricots, broccoli, chlorella, dulse, garlic, green vegetables (leafy), kelp, seaweed, spinach, spirulina, wheat, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

COENZYME Q10/UBIQUINONE – almonds, grains (all) and spinach

COPPER – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apricots, avocados, barley, beans, beets, brazil nuts, broccoli, buckwheat, cacao/chocolate, cauliflower, chlorella, filberts, garlic, grapes, green vegetables (leafy), grains (all), hazelnuts, kelp, lentils, millet, mushrooms, nuts, oats, parsley, peas, pecans, plums, pomegranate, prunes, raisins, seaweed, soy, spirulina, sunflower seeds, tomato and walnuts (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

CRYPTOXANTHIN – apples, apricots, corn, green peppers, lemon, oranges, papaya, paprika, persimmons and starfruit

CURCUMIN – cumin seeds and turmeric

CYSTEINE – brazil nuts, soy and whole wheat

ELLAGIC ACID – apples, black currants, black walnuts, cherries, cranberries, grapes, pomegranate, raisins, raspberries and strawberries

FIBER – cacao/chocolate, chlorella, fruits (all), lucuma powder, lychee, maca powder, mesquite powder and vegetables (all) (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

FLAVONOIDS – cacao/chocolate, fruits (all) and vegetables (all) (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

FLUORINE (destroyed by heat) – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, avocados, beet greens, black tea, black-eyed peas, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, chlorella, dandelion greens, dates, endive, garlic, green tea, green vegetables (leafy), kelp, mustard greens, nuts, oats, parsley, rye, seaweed, seeds (all), spinach, tomato, turnip greens, watercress, wheat and wheatgrass

FRUCTO-OLIGOSACCHARIDES – artichokes, bananas, barley, garlic, onions and tomato

GAMMA-CAROTENE – tomato

GAMMA-LINOLENIC ACID – black currant seed oil and borage seed oil

GERMANIUM – aloe vera, barley, chlorella, garlic, mushrooms (shiitake) and oats

GLUTAMIC ACID – dates and mushrooms (shiitake)

GLUTAMINE – oats, parsley and spinach

GLUTATHIONE – apples, asparagus, avocados, broccoli, cantaloupe, carrots, cauliflower, garlic, onions, parsley, peaches, potato, spinach, sprouts (all), strawberries, tomato, walnuts, watermelon and winter squash

GLYCINE – avocados, oats, wheatgerm and whole wheat

HESPERIDIN – berries (all), buckwheat, grapefruit, lemon and oranges

HISTIDINE – apples, beans, nuts, papaya, pineapple, seeds (all) and vegetables (except celery, radish and turnip)

INDOLES – Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, mustard greens and radish

IODINE – apples, artichokes, asparagus, beans, beets, blueberries, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, celery, chives, chlorella, citrus fruit, coconut, dulse, eggplant, garlic, green peppers, kale, kelp, mustard greens, onions, peanuts, pears, pineapple, sea salt, seaweed, sesame seeds, soy, spinach, squash, strawberries, swiss chard, tomato, turnip, watercress, watermelon and wheat

IRON (consuming foods rich in VITAMIN C while consuming the following foods will INCREASE iron absorption) – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apricots, artichokes, asparagus, bananas, beans, beets, blackberries, blackstrap molasses, bran flakes, cacao/chocolate, carrots, cashews, cherries, chick peas (cooked), chlorella, dandelion greens, dates, dried fruit, dulse, figs, grains (all), grapes, Grape Nuts, green peppers, green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, lentils, lucuma powder, maca powder, mango, mesquite powder, millet, nutritional yeast, oatmeal, onions, parsley, pecans, persimmons, pinto beans (cooked), pistachio nuts, plums, prunes, pumpkin seeds, raisins, seeds (all), seaweed, shallots, soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), squash, sunflower seeds, swiss chard, walnut, wheatgerm, wheatgrass and yams (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

ISOFLAVONES – alfalfa sprouts, berries (all), broccoli, cabbage, carrots and soy

ISOLEUCINE – apples, apricots, beans, dates, figs, nuts, peaches, pears, persimmons, rye, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except celery, lettuce and radish)

KAEMPFEROL – asparagus, beets, cauliflower, dill, grapefruit and strawberries

LECITHIN – beans, grains (all) and nutritional yeast

LEUCINE – apples, apricots, dates, figs, grains (all), nuts, peaches, pears, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except celery, lettuce and radish)

LIGNINS – flax (oil/seeds)

LIMONENE – caraway seeds, celery seeds, grapefruit, lemon, oranges and tangerines

LITHIUM – dulse, eggplant, green vegetables (leafy), kelp, peppers and tomato

LUTEIN – apples, apricots, beets, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, carrots, chlorella, collard greens, corn, cranberries, kale, kiwi, lettuce, mustard greens, orange juice, orange peel, paprika, peaches, peas, potato, pumpkin, raisin, red grapes, red peppers, spinach, spirulina, tomato, turnip greens, winter squash and zucchini

LYCOPENE – apricots, carrots, chlorella, grapefruit (pink), green peppers, guava, tomato and watermelon

LYSINE – aloe vera, apples, apricots, avocados, bananas, beans, cantaloupe, dates, figs, grains (all), grapefruit, nuts, oranges, papaya, peaches, pears, persimmons, pineapple, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (all)

MAGNESIUM – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, apples, apricots, artichokes, avocados, bananas, beans, beets, broccoli, cacao/chocolate, cantaloupe, carrot, cauliflower, celery, chlorella, coconut, corn, dandelion greens, dates, dulse, fenugreek (powder/seeds), figs, garlic, grains (all), grapefruit, grapes, green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), lemon, lentils, mango, mesquite powder, mushrooms, nuts, oranges, paprika, parsley, peaches, pears, peppers, pineapple, plums, prunes, rice (brown/wild), seeds (all), sesame seeds, spirulina, sprouts (all), squash, strawberries, sunflower seeds, sweet potato, tomato, watercress, watermelon, wheat and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

MANGANESE – alfalfa sprouts, apples, apricots, avocados, bananas, beans, beet greens, beets, blackberries, blueberries, broccoli, cacao/chocolate, carrots, celery, chives, chlorella, cucumber, dandelion greens, grains (all), grapefruit, green vegetables (leafy), kelp, legumes, mango, nuts, oats, oranges, parsley, peas, persimmons, pineapple, plums, prunes, seaweed, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sweet potato, walnuts, watercress, wheatgrass and yams (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

METHIONINE – apples, apricots, bananas, brazil nuts, brown rice, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cantaloupe, cauliflower, chives, dates, figs, garlic, grains (all), lentils, nuts, onions, oranges, papaya, peaches, pears, persimmons, pineapple, sesame seeds, soy, strawberries, sunflower seeds, tomato and watercress

METHYL-SULFONYL-METHANE/MSM – aloe vera, pine nuts and rain-watered fruits/vegetables (unwashed)

MOLYBDENUM – apricots, beans, cantaloupe, carrots, chlorella, garlic, grapes, green vegetables (leafy), grains (all), legumes, raisins, seaweed, spirulina, strawberries, sunflower seeds and wheatgrass

MONOTERENES – basil, broccoli, carrots, citrus fruits, eggplant, parsley, peppermint, tomato and yams

OMEGA FATTY ACIDS – açaí, beans, black currant seed oil, blue-green algae, borage seed oil, cabbage, canola oil, flax (oil/seeds), chlorella, corn, green vegetables (leafy), hemp (oil/seed/powder/milk), pine nuts, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, soy, sprouts (all), squash, vegetable oils, walnuts and wheat

PECTIN – apples, bananas, blueberries, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, figs, grapefruit, lima beans, mustard greens, onions, turnip greens and watercress

PHENYLALANINE – almonds, apples, apricots, avocados, bananas, beans, beets, carrots, figs, grains (all), nuts, parsley, peaches, pears, persimmons, pineapple, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except lettuce and radish)

PHOSPHOROUS – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apricots, asparagus, bananas, beans, beet greens, broccoli, cabbage, celery, chlorella, coconut, corn, dates, dried fruits, dulse, grains (all), garlic, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), kale, kelp, lentils, mango, nuts, oats, onions, parsley, peas, pistachio nuts, potato, pumpkin seeds, raisins, rice (brown/wild), seaweed, sesame seeds, seeds (all), spirulina, sprouts (all), swiss chard, watercress, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

PHYTOENE/PHYTOFLUENE – tomato

POTASSIUM (destroyed by excessive heat) – açaí, almonds, apples, apple cider vinegar (unpasteurized), apricots, avocados, bananas, beans, beet greens, black currants, blueberries, broccoli, cabbage, cantaloupe, carrots, cherries, chlorella, citrus fruits, cucumber, dandelion greens, dates, dulse, figs, garlic, grains (all), grapes, green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, lentils, lychee, mango, mesquite powder, mung beans, onions, oranges, papaya, peaches, pecans, pistachio nuts, plantain, potato, prunes, pumpkin seeds, raisins, sesame seeds, spirulina, sprouts (all), sunflower seeds, tomato, turnip, watercress, watermelon, wheatgrass, winter squash and yams

PROANTHOCYANADINS/ANTHOCYANOSIDES – blackberries, blueberries, citrus fruit seeds, cherries, elderberries, grape seeds and raspberries

PROTEIN – beans, broccoli (40%), brown rice, cacao/chocolate, cauliflower (40%), chlorella, fruit (2-3%), grains (all), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seed), lentils, lucuma powder, maca powder, mesquite powder, nuts, seeds (all), soy, vegetables (all) and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

QUERCETIN – apples, blue-green algae, black tea, broccoli, buckwheat, cherries, citrus fruits, garlic, green tea, green vegetables (leafy), onions (yellow/purple) and red grapes

RESVERATROL – grape skins and grape leaves

RIBONUCLEIC ACID/RNA – asparagus, beets, green vegetables (leafy), lentils, mushrooms, nuts and radish

RUTIN – apricots, blackberries, buckwheat, cherries, citrus fruit peels (inner rind) and hawthorn berries

SELENIUM – alfalfa sprouts, asparagus, beets, black-eyed peas, broccoli, brown rice, cabbage, carrots, cashews, celery, chlorella, dulse, fenugreek (powder/seeds), garlic, grains (all), kelp, mango, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, nuts, onions, parsley, seaweed, soy, spirulina, sprouts (all), squash, sunflower seeds, tomato, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

SILICON – alfalfa sprouts, almonds, apples, apricots, artichokes, asparagus, bananas, barley, beets, carrots, cauliflower, celery, cherries, chlorella, corn, cucumber, dandelion greens, figs, grains (all), grapes, hemp (nuts/oil/powder/seeds), horseradish, kelp, leeks, lettuce, mustard greens, oats, onions, plums, pumpkins, radish, raisins, seeds (all), skins of fruits/vegetables, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, swiss chard, sunflower seeds, tomato, watermelon, wheatgerm, wheatgrass and wild rice

SODIUM – alfalfa sprouts, apples, apricots, asparagus, beets, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cantaloupe, carrots, cashews, celery, chlorella, coconut, collard greens, dandelion greens, dates, dulse, figs, garlic, grapes, kale, kelp, lentils, mango, millet, okra, olives, onions, parsley, plums, prunes, raisins, red cabbage, sea salt (unrefined), seaweed, sesame seeds, spinach, spirulina, sprouts (all), strawberries, sweet potato, swiss chard, tomato, turnip, watercress, watermelon, wheat and wheatgrass

SULFORAPHANE – broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, kale and turnips

SULFUR – alfalfa sprouts, apples, apricots, asparagus, avocados, beans, blue-green algae, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, cayenne, celery, chives, chlorella, corn, cucumber, eggplant, figs, garlic, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), hemp (nuts/oil/powder/seeds), horseradish, kale, kelp, lima beans, nuts, oats, onions, parsnip, peaches, peas, plums, potato, prunes, pumpkin seeds, raspberries, sesame seeds, spinach, spirulina, string beans, swiss chard, tomato, turnip, watercress, wheat, wheatgerm and wheatgrass

SUPER-OXIDE DISMUTASE – broccoli, cabbage, green vegetables (leafy), nutritional yeast and wheatgrass

THERONINE – apples, apricots, beans, dates, figs, grains (all), nuts, peaches, pears, persimmons, seeds (all), strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except celery and lettuce)

TRACE MINERALS – alfalfa sprouts, chlorella, dulse, hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, nori, nuts, sea salt, seaweed, seeds (all), soy, spirulina, sprouts (all) and vegetables (all)

TRYPTOPHAN – alfalfa sprouts, avocados, bananas, beans, cacao/chocolate, cashews, chives, dates, durian, figs, grains (all), grapefruit, nuts, oranges, papaya, peaches, pears, persimmons, pineapple, pumpkin seeds, seeds (all), strawberries, sunflower seeds, tomato, sweet potato and vegetables (all) (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)

TYROSINE – alfalfa sprouts, almonds apples, apricots, asparagus, avocados, bananas, beans, beets, bell peppers, carrots, cherries, cucumber, figs, leeks, lettuce, parsley, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, spinach, spirulina, strawberries, sunflower seeds, watercress, watermelon, wheatgerm and whole wheat

VALINE – apples, apricots, beans, dates, figs, grains, mushrooms, nuts, peaches, pears, persimmons, seeds, strawberries, tomato and vegetables (except celery and lettuce)

VANADIUM – dill, grains, olives, parsley, radish, soy and string beans

ZEAXABTHIN – bell peppers, chlorella, corn, grapes, green vegetables (leafy), kiwi, oranges, paprika, raisins, spirulina, winter squash and zucchini

ZETA-CAROTENE – tomato

ZINC – açaí, alfalfa sprouts, almonds, aloe vera, beans, brazil nuts, cacao/chocolate, cashews, cayenne, chlorella, coconut, corn, dandelion greens, dulse, garlic, grains (all), green vegetables (leafy), hemp (milk/oil/powder/seeds), kelp, macadamia nuts, mesquite powder, mushrooms, nutritional yeast, onions, parsley, peanuts, peanut butter, peas, pecans, pine nuts, poppy seeds, pumpkin seeds, raisins, seaweed, sesame seeds, soy, spinach, spirulina, sunflower seeds, walnuts, wheatgerm and wheatgrass (Genuine cacao/chocolate is naturally vegan. It’s a bean.)
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:26 pm

Posted by vortexkitten on 08/12/2015

Aug 11, 2015 17:01:06 GMT lizardking said:
EVERY FUCKING VITAMIN, MINERAL AND OTHER NUTRIENTS CAN BE ATTAINED THROUGH PLANT BASED SOURCES AND TO PROVE IT HERE’S A HUGE FUCKING LIST

lizardkings list here

B-17/AMYGDALIN/LAETRILE (destroyed by heat) – almonds, apple seeds, apricot kernels, barley, blackberries, brown rice, buckwheat, cherry seeds, chia seeds, celery, chlorella, cranberries, elderberries, flax (oil/seeds), garlic, grains (all), macadamia, millet, mung beans, nectarine seeds, oats, peach seeds, pear seeds, plum seeds, raspberries, rye, sesame seeds, sprouts (all), strawberries and wheatgrass
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Thanks for your post and extensive list lizardking.... brilliant!!

Focusing on just Vitamin B-17...

Source for text below here

In addition to wild animals, there is a number of human populations throughout the world that have a regular intake of vitamin B-17 in their diet and -- get this -- they never get cancer!

A careful reviewer of the claim that some populations never get cancer might speculate that these same populations have low life expectancy rates, leading other factors to kill them off before cancer can develop. But that's not so with Hunzakuts who live in a remote area of the Himalaya Mountains. Hunzakuts are known for their amazing longevity -- many of them live beyond 100, and some surpass 120 years old and more! In 1922, a doctor from the Journal of The American Medical Association visited Hunza to study just why its people might be living so long. He noted, "The Hunza has no known incidence of cancer. They have an abundant crop of apricots. These they dry in the sun and use very largely in their food."

It is fitting that the author mentioned apricot seeds, since they contain the highest known concentration of vitamin B17 found in nature. One observer noted, "it was not uncommon for them to eat thirty to fifty apricot seeds as an after-lunch snack." He continues, "In addition to the ever-present apricot, the Hunzakuts eat mainly grain and fresh vegetables including buckwheat, millet, alfalfa, peas, broad beans, turnips, lettuce, sprouting pulse or gram, and berries of various sorts. All of these with the exception of lettuce and turnips contain vitamin B17"

That there is no cancer in Hunza still holds true today. Numerous visiting medical teams from the west have done studies, and all of them returned to report not a single case. Yet, studies have also shown that when Hunzakuts leave their remote kingdom, travel to the west, and abandon their vitamin-B17-rich diets, they become as susceptible to cancer as Europeans and Americans. 

Also of interest Search for - A World Without Cancer - G. Edward Griffin


WORLD WITHOUT CANCER explores the revolutionary concept that cancer is a deficiency disease, like scurvy or pellagra, aggravated by the lack of an essential food compound in modern man's diet. That substance is vitamin B17. But in its concentrated and purified form developed specifically for cancer therapy, it is known as Laetrile, the controversial chemical that currently is banned in the United States.
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Posted by csp on 08/13/2015
This article was on the "mainstream" australian news website today:

www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/kg-nfl-star-explains-how-a-vegan-diet-has-saved-his-career/story-fno61i58-1227481590059
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:28 pm

Posted by csp on 08/22/2015
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Posted by lizardking on 08/24/2015
Alcohol
www.tohappyvegans.com/wordpress/category/food-and-drink/alcohol/

Wine

Although wine (as well as sherry and port) is essentially made from grapes and would therefore be presumed to be vegetarian or vegan, sometimes animal products are used in the production process. These include fining agents (which remove unwanted particles during the making of the wine) and substances used to clarify the wine (make the wine ‘clear’):

Casein (milk derivative)
Egg white aka albumin (to filter red wine such as clarat and rioja)
Bull’s blood (in mediterranean wines now illegal in EU countries)
Isinglass (derived from sturgeon and other fish)
Gelatine
Chitosan (derived from shells of shrimp and other crustaceans)

Luckily there is bentonite, which is a special clay which vegan wine producers use instead to clarify their wines, and some wines are not clarified or fined at all. Unfortunately these wines may not have such information on their labels, so a little more investigation and research may be required before popping down you local offy to pick up a bottle. But things are getting better the Co-operative lists the full ingredients of its own brand wines, Marks and Spencer and Sainsbury’s label vegan suitability and most of the major supermarkets are starting to provide more information. Also check the Eating Out section where you will find most of the vegetarian and vegan restaurants listed serve suitable wines. Shops that sell organic and biodynamic (and there was us thinking organic couldn’t get any more virtuous!) wines are also likely to be good places to source the vegan variety.

Beer & Cider

Again animal derived clarifying agents may be used, but alternatives are Irish moss, seaweed or artificial agents.

Spirits

The Vegan and Vegetarian Society both agree that most spirits are vegan but of course along with the obvious no-nos (such as Baileys and Advocat) there are other things to look out for:

Campari contains cochineal that unfortunate bug used to colour things red.
Malt whiskey and Spanish brandy may have been aged in casks previously containing non vegan sherry.
Imported vodkas may be filtered with bone char (burnt bones).

There are several lists floating around out there on the internet which we have provided below, but with no way of knowing when they were last updated, your best option for finding out if your favourite brand is vegan would be to contact the producer directly. Otherwise just stick to the Vegan Society approved stuff or even make your own!
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Posted by lizardking on 08/25/2015


The Book That Started A Revolution

Since its original publication in 1975, this groundbreaking work has awakened millions of concerned men and women to the shocking abuse of animals everywhere -- inspiring a worldwide movement to eliminate much of the cruel and unnecessary laboratory animal experimentation of years past.

In this newly revised and expanded edition, author Peter Singer exposes the chilling realities of today's "factory forms" and product-testing procedures -- offering sound, humane solutions to what has become a profound environmental and social as well as moral issue. An important and persuasive appeal to conscience, fairness, decency and justice, Animal Liberation is essential reading for the supporter and the skeptic alike.

www.amazon.com/Animal-Liberation-Peter-Singer/dp/0060011572/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
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Posted by schpankme on 08/25/2015
Beefing up WITHOUT meat! Vegan bodybuilders reveal how.

The Gladiators were known as the "Hordeii", which literally means, barley eaters.

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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:29 pm

Posted by csp on 08/25/2015
Also to note, Mr Universe Barny du Plessis Overall 2014 Universe Champion has started a YouTube channel here:



He and his wife had converted to veganism and all things ethical, and he was asked to share his experience online by some of the other vegan YouTubers - so he did! I've watched a few and while most of it is body building and metal music - he and his wife seem like very down to earth and honest folks. Another great inspiration if building muscle is your thing!
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Posted by procent on 08/27/2015
Guys what are your views on dry/intermittent fasting? 
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Posted by Admin on 08/27/2015
Dry fasting is great if you want to die quickly, and intermittent fasting is great if you want to give yourself a low metabolism and teach your body to store fat. Water fasting along with water enemas is an excellent healing modality which I certainly recommend. When sick, all animals will naturally water fast (NOT dry fast) as it allows the internal organs to rest and release built-up toxins. Dry fasting on the other hand is incredibly dangerous, has killed many people, and most certainly is not "like 3 days of water fasting." Even if it was, then you should just do an extra 3 days, not try to speed the process by depriving yourself of water, the second most vital thing we need to sustain life after oxygen. And if you're eating a high-raw high-carb low-fat vegan diet there is no reason to do "intermittent fasting" anyway. That is what meat-eating body-builders do before a photo shoot to cut/tone. Intermittent fasting just slows your metabolism, brings about ketosis (an emergency state for the body), and teaches your body to be a fat-storer vs. a fat-burner. If you're eating the correct diet, then there's no reason to regularly/intermittently deprive yourself of vital nutrition.
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3 Reasons Not to Eat Honey
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Unique among all God’s creatures, only the honeybee improves the environment and preys not on any other species.”
~Royden Brown

From the basil plant a strong hum sounds, soft wings vibrate the air, endlessly searching for nectar. To truly watch these amazing creatures plunder and absent-mindedly pollinate these tiny white flowers makes one wonder how such a small creature could make such a large difference in our lives.

Yet without the humble bee:

– The food on your table
– The flowers in your garden
– The clothes on your back

might just disappear.

Bees* pollinate nearly 80% of all fruit, vegetable and seed crops in the U.S. We may be able to spray noxious fertilizers and pesticides on plants to “rid” ourselves of some problems (and create new ones). But we have yet to create a chemical that can successfully pollinate large crops. Nonetheless, we have still created an agricultural system that is in danger of killing one of its strongest contributors, in the pursuit of easy pollination and honey.

*Although there are numerous species of bees that pollinate flowers/crops, this job has been disproportionately taken over by farmed honeybees.

We’ve been tricked into believing that honey is simply a byproduct of the essential pollination provided by farmed honeybees. Did you know though that the honeybee’s wild counterparts (such as bumblebees, carpenter and digger bees) are much better pollinators? They are also less likely than farmed honeybees to be affected by mites and Africanized bees. The issue is that these native bees can hibernate for up to 11 months out of the year and do not live in large colonies. Thus, they do not produce massive amounts of honey. Enter a $157 million dollar a year industry and three reasons you should stop eating honey today.

Give the bees a break.

While you may spread a heaping tablespoon of honey on your morning toast without thinking, creating each drop is no small feat. To make one pound of honey, a colony must visit over two million flowers, flying over 55,000 miles, at up to 15 miles per hour to do so. During a bee’s lifetime, she will only make approximately one teaspoon of honey, which is essential to the hive for times when nectar is scarce, such as during winter. At times there may be an excess in the hive, but this amount is difficult to determine and large-scale beekeepers often remove all or most of it and replace it with a sugar or corn syrup substitute. Can you imagine someone removing all the fruit juice from your house and replacing it with fruit-flavored soda? It may still give you energy, but eventually it will probably make you sick.

Another thing to think about while you sit by your beeswax candle and contemplate the lives of these little fellows is that bees must consume approximately eight pounds of honey to produce each pound of wax! And the more we take from them (bee pollen, royal jelly, propolis) the harder these creatures must work and the more bees are needed, which isn’t good news for a population that is dwindling.

When you see a jar of honey, you may think of the sweet cartoon hives depicted in childhood stories such as Winnie the Pooh. But most hives are now confined to large boxes (a completely foreign shape to bees) that are jostled and shipped around the country to pollinate crops and produce honey. This is stressful and confusing to the bees’ natural navigation systems. Along the way, bees are lost and killed, and may spread diseases from one infected hive to another. The practice of bee farming often limits the bees’ diet to monoculture crops (*hint hint* blueberry, clover, lavender honey), introduces large amounts of pesticides into their systems and causes the farmed bees to crowd out the native wild pollinators that may have been otherwise present. Beekeepers (even small-scale backyard beekeepers) will also kill the queens if they feel the hive is in danger of swarming (fleeing their file cabinet shaped homes) or drones* that they deem unnecessary to honey production.

* The drones’ main function is to fertilize the queen when needed.

Honey is meant as a health food; a health food for bees. The more we interfere with their natural processes, both by relying on farmed bees as pollinators (rather then other native wild bees, insects or animals) and to feed our desires for “sweets,” the closer we’re coming to agricultural disaster.

The Case of the Disappearing Bees

The question of what will happen if bees disappear may not be far from being answered. Over the past couple of years, stories about bees disappearing and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) have been popping up in the The New York Times, Star Tribune, Huffington Post, PBS, Discovery News and more. If nothing else wakes us up, perhaps the fact that the disappearance of bees has become front page news will. Scientists are rushing to discover what’s causing this problem before it’s too late and before we lose the important environmental link created by bees.

Thus far, there are three main theories/contributing factors:

Pesticides

Pennsylvania State University published a study in 2010 that found “unprecedented levels” of pesticides in honeybees and hives in the United States. (If it’s in the bees and hives, what do you think is in your honey?) Some of these chemicals are killing bees, and guess what? The EPA knows about it.

“The EPA identifies two specific neonicotinoids, imidacloprid and clothianidin, as highly toxic to bees. Both chemicals cause symptoms in bees such as memory loss, navigation disruption, paralysis and death.

Both chemicals have been linked in dramatic honeybee deaths and subsequent suspensions of their use in France and Germany. Several European countries have already suspended them. Last year Slovenia and Italy also suspended their use for what they consider a significant risk to honeybee populations.”

– Mother Earth News

This is old news; this story came out in 2009. But has anything changed here? Not as far as I can tell.

Mites and Viruses

With weakened immune systems (stress, inferior food sources, pesticides etc.) bees have become more susceptible to viruses, fungal infections and mites. Many of these invasive bugs are spread as hives are moved around the country or transferred from country to country.

While there are a number of treatments on the market for the mites, viruses, funguses and other pests that are attacking our colonies, none have solved the problem completely. These treatments can also introduce antibiotics, pesticides and other chemicals into the hives in an attempt to prevent or heal infection. If these chemicals (often on strips) are not removed from the hive after they lose potency, they can in fact help the viruses or mites become resistant to treatment in the future.

Cell phones

This is one of the newest theories on CCD and may need further testing.

“According to a Swiss researcher who recently published a paper on the subject, the electromagnetic waves from mobile phones have a significant impact on the behavior of honeybees and could potentially be harming honeybees around the world.”

“To test the relationship between honeybees and buzzing cellphones, he placed phones inside bee hives and then monitored the bees’ reaction. He found that in the presence of actively communicating cellphones (those not in standby mode), bees produced the sounds known as “worker piping,” which tends to indicate disturbance in a bee colony.”

– ABC News

Cell phones, pesticides and viruses aside, commercial bee farming – whether organic (where bee deaths are fewer, but still occur) or conventional – does not provide bees with the opportunity to live out their normal life cycle. No matter how small the animal, farming is farming. Whether you choose to buy backyard honey or a large brand, eating honey and using other bee products encourages using bees for profit.

Still have a hankering for some honey? Well the next fact might change just that.

The True Story of Honey Production

There are other insect-produced substances (such as shellac) and products derived from parts of insects (cochineal or carmine) that may be used in food, but these are not considered food in and of themselves. Some insects are also eaten as food, but honey remains the one product “created by” insects that is actually marketed as a food.

This is the true story of how this “healthy sweetener” is produced:

The bees search for a source of nectar.
When they find a suitable flower they dig in and swallow the nectar into their ‘crop’ (like a stomach for honey).

Not too bad so far… But wait.

The bees then chew the regurgitated nectar, mixing it with saliva to add enzymes.
Then they swallow it again.
Then they regurgitate it again.
This process is repeated…many, many times.

If we could see this process in action, would we really want to slather this substance on our toast? While some people may shrug and say ‘so what?’, the fact is that honey is a mix of regurgitated food and spit.

Let me ask you this:

Is there any other food that you would willingly eat that has been swallowed, vomited, mixed with spit, re chewed, swallowed and then regurgitated again? I don’t care how sweet it is, or what the “health benefits” are, one of my rules for life is: Do not eat anything that came out of another animal’s stomach.

The lives of bees are complex: they feel pain, they dance to communicate and they view the world through Technicolor eyes. While they may not directly offer their help to us, we should be grateful for all they do willingly and ask no more.

I hope that next time you see a bee, you will watch more closely and show your appreciation for their work by planting a flower-rich garden and leaving the honey, wax and other bee products for those winged creatures that truly need them.

Even the smallest of creatures deserves the right to live their lives free from being part of a production line.
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:30 pm

Posted by lizardking on 08/28/2015



www.onegreenplanet.org/lifestyle/how-to-read-a-cruelty-free-cosmetics-label/

This site presents facts from scientific research to show that fish feel pain, and expose the cruelty involved in angling: www.fishpain.com/

“‘Catch and release’ anglers kill the fish inadvertently at a later time. The fish may die from damage from hooks, stress or be attacked by predators while they are helplessly hooked. While “humane slaughter” for other animals killed for their flesh is a marketing myth, there is not even this pretence when fish are killed. They instead struggle and gasp while they slowly suffocate to death. Just because fish die in silence, does not mean that they do not suffer.

Not only can fish detect and perceive painful events, but they also show disturbed behaviour. 

Russian scientists found that loach made sounds with their swim bladders immediately after being wounded. 

Fish pain expert, Dr Lynn Sneddon, experimented with trout, where she injected painful bee venom or vinegar into their lips. Disturbingly, they showed their suffering by breathing twice as quickly, swimming less, ceasing to feed, rocking backwards and forwards, and rubbing their lips on the ground and tank walls. These are signs of pain that we can empathise with.

Most anglers are deluded into believing that the fish that they release swim away unaffected by their encounter. This is not the case. Many fish will suffer and die, sometimes several hours later, once the culprit has left the scene. Studies have found that a third, half, or even more fish can die at a site. 

Fish caught at tournaments are at the greatest risk of dying, as they are often repeatedly caught in the same day. Damage by hooks, exhaustion, and sometimes excessive pressure when the fish is brought to the surface, all contribute to loss of life. However, the mere trauma of capture, even for short periods, can herald death.”

On Wednesday 1 February 1995, 31 year old protester Jill Phipps was crushed to death under the wheels of an export truck carrying baby veal calves into Coventry Airport. Despite the fact that nearly 100 officers were on duty that day, 10 of the 33 protesters present had broken through police lines and attempted to bring the lorry to a halt by sitting on the road and attempting to chain themselves to it. Jill and the others mistakenly assumed that police officers and the lorry driver (Stephen Yates) would respect human life a little more than animals, they were wrong. Police on duty allowed the export lorry to continue making progress despite the clear safety problems. The vehicle was only halted by police once Jill had been crushed beneath the wheels. The Crown Prosecution Service decided there was not enough evidence to charge Stephen Yates with Causing death by dangerous driving. 

Jill Phipps brother Zab commented, “Jill was crushed and died on the way to hospital. Our mother, Nancy, was with her. The driver has not been charged, not even with driving without due care & attention”.
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Posted by marleyites on 08/31/2015

Aug 27, 2015 21:09:25 GMT lizardking said:
3 Reasons Not to Eat Honey
gentleworld.org/3-reasons-not-to-eat-honey/

Unique among all God’s creatures, only the honeybee improves the environment and preys not on any other species.”
~Royden Brown

< snip >

I hope that next time you see a bee, you will watch more closely and show your appreciation for their work by planting a flower-rich garden and leaving the honey, wax and other bee products for those winged creatures that truly need them.

Even the smallest of creatures deserves the right to live their lives free from being part of a production line.

After finding this forum, I lurked and read; thought and pondered; researched and observed.

At that same time (a few months ago), my daughter and grandchildren stopped eating meat and animal products.
I was dismayed that they wouldn't get enough protein; I was happy that they would have one less source of GMO (used to fatten animals - corn, soy, chicken feces, ag by-products).

Then, a while later, I got to spend some time with them.
The 2 grandchildren used to fight between themselves. bully/victim; victim/bully. struggle with no balance.
After they adopted "plant-based diet" they now play with each other in peace. creative activities, no fighting.
Daughter lost weight, balanced her life.

I was jealous because I felt I couldn't stop eating meat due to adrenal gland problems that need alot of protein.
But, where I live it's so hard to find grassfed, non-gmo-fed meat.
So, I decided that my digestion is so screwed up anyway, I'm probably not getting all the protein I think I'm getting.
And maybe plant protein sources will digest better.

Next, I forced myself to watch Eric's vids about slaughter - kosher and otherwise.

Horrified that I would eat food that contained the experience of the slaughter, I stopped animal eating.

I do not eat enough food right now and have wasting, but I at least know that what I eat is not full of terror, fear and grief.

I encourage all to watch slaughter - it will change your life.

Now today, I am stopping honey as well.  You made an excellent case for the bee friends, Liz, and I agree with you.

As I sit on my porch out in the woods, typing, listening to my little dog snore, wondering at how quiet it is, every once in awhile ...
a little hummingbird flies over to me, centers her little self center to my monitor, and looks at me for a long glance. 

I say "I love you little hummingbird" then I shoot out a ray of gold light from my heart and it surrounds that little bird.
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Posted by lizardking on 09/01/2015
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Posted by Admin on 09/01/2015
Protein, Fat and Carbohydrates are all 3 found in almost every plant food, and in far healthier proportions than animal products! There isn't even a medical term for protein deficiency because the only time it happens is when someone is MALNOURISHED. If you're eating enough of ANYTHING, then you're eating enough protein. The myth that vegetarians/vegans don't get enough protein is absolutely false. Carnists get way too much protein (and fat) in their diets, while talking about low-carb all day... the nutrient they ARE deficient in. 

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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Posted by schpankme on 09/01/2015
Let's expound on this Protein Myth, as the majority of people, for commercial profit, have been taught 
that Protein is required in large quantities, and should be derived from consuming Animal Body Parts.  

Etymology of Protein

    Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
    Gr. prw^tos first: cf. prwtei^on the first place

    Chambers's Twentieth Century Dictionary
    Gr. prōtos, first, suffix -in.

The word protein means first,  it acts as the glue that binds all living cells together.  How much Protein 
do you require?

The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that an infant human requires  about 5%  of  total 
calories from protein, and that an adult would require half that amount (2.5%), or 30 to 40 grams.

Where do you get 5% of calories from protein? 

Most seeds, legumes, vegetables, grains and fruit provide more than 5% protein. Spinach 49% protein, 
potato and sweet potato 6%, quinoa 16%.

Meat (animal body parts) > 45% - 75% Protein

What this means is that anyone eating enough calories from a Whole Foods - Plant Based - Diet,  will 
most certainly be eating enough protein.

GOT KOSHER?
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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:32 pm

Posted by hiilikeourbeard on 09/02/2015
lol protein 


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Post by lizardking on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:33 pm


Posted by wondering man on 09/02/2015


Love these guys, always informative. And actually qualified in dietetics, unlike all the bro scientists who tell you to eat metric shit-tons of brotein.

Im not a body builder but I am an athlete. My recovery and performance has only got better since I cut the protein and fat, while raising the carbs and fibre.
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