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The Motionless Earth

Post by RickFE on Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:49 pm

There are many examples on earth, natural and man-made, showing how still the earth we live on is.

An inuksuk or inukshuk in English  is a human-made stone landmark or cairn used by the Inuit and other peoples of the Arctic region of North America. The inuksuk may have been used for navigation, as a point of reference, a marker for travel routes, fishing places, camps, hunting grounds among other uses. The word inuksuk means "that which acts in the capacity of a human." Or simply Rock People. A literal human representation given life and purpose in their tradition. These rock people are simple stones balanced on top of each other. Used as markers, they can return to these and find them intact year after year.



Many people have copied this in modern times, creating their own balancing stone sculptures.










Many of these are photographed over time by different people. Some have remained unchanged for years as people visit the tourist destinations.  Not to be outdone, earth has shown many examples of its own.











No matter how many formulas they come up with, the earth is motionless. The fact we can measure motion in a car, train, airplane is proof that motion should be detected. None of these rocks would be capable of being balanced on a train. No matter how smooth the ride is, how straight the path, the forward motion, would cause the balancing point to change. You can toss a ball up in the air and catch it in a train. Put the ball on the floor, and watch as it rolls to the back of the train. If there is a slight turn, the ball will go opposite side of the way you are turning. Same as in a car. You feel the momentum generated in corners and are pushed away from the center of rotation.

We are on a motionless earth. The evidence is all around us. Our bodies have senses to let us know if we are going uphill, downhill, if we are tilted sideways in any direction. Our bodies, are our scientific instruments and our tools.
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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by Schpankme on Sun May 21, 2017 8:55 pm

An interesting aspect of the stationary Earth, is that uncovered before us, having been built upon layer after layer of striation.  If we look at the Grand Canyon, for example; one can see hundreds of miles of striation, in every conceivable direction, with no Curve to be found within that striation.




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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by ConsciousTruth on Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:04 pm

Wow so many beautiful photos to help us understand the motionless fiat world we live in. Thank you!
Indeed, if the earth ball was spinning whilst also orbiting the sun , then one side of the earth ball would be moving faster through space than the other side. Let’s say you are in equador, your speed around the sun in the day time would be: the orbital speed minus the earths rotational speed. In the night time your speed would be the orbital speed PLUS the rotational speed!
So every 12 hours we would be speeding up and slowing down. Obviously we would notice that if it was true.

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by liminoid on Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:48 pm

ConsciousTruth wrote:Indeed, if the earth ball was spinning whilst also orbiting the sun , then one side of the earth ball would be moving faster through space than the other side. Let’s say you are in equador, your speed around the sun in the day time would be: the orbital speed minus the earths rotational speed. In the night time your speed would be the orbital speed PLUS the rotational speed!
So every 12 hours we would be speeding up and slowing down. Obviously we would notice that if it was true.

That's a good point and provides really simple thought experiment to present to someone as a starting point.  So then using simplified math and the supposed velocities of globe-thinking:

globe model's supposed avg orbital speed of earth around the sun: 67,000mph

globe model's supposed rotational speed of earth at the equator: ~1000mph

to simplify the thought experiment, assume the rotational axis of the earth is perpendicular to the plane of it's rotation around the sun

Then at 12 noon, standing on the equator your total velocity including orbit speed + rotational speed would be 68,000mph in the direction of the orbit.  Simply standing in that same place for 12 hours until midnight would have to then place you on the opposite side of the ball moving at only 66,000mph (orbital speed - rotational speed).  

That would mean a 2000mph deceleration/acceleration over 12 hours or 166mph change every hour.  

...not to mention if you stayed in that same spot for another 6 months it would have to be dark at "noon" and mid-day bright at "midnight."  

Good grief. That is deceptively simple, but so obvious when you look.

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by ConsciousTruth on Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:31 am

thanks for working out those numbers. Yes, surely we would notice a constant acceleration and deceleration every 12 hours.
I have to disagree with you on this point though:
"...not to mention if you stayed in that same spot for another 6 months it would have to be dark at "noon" and mid-day bright at "midnight."
I have heard this come up many times in various youtube videos, but it's a mistake i'm afraid.
It assumes that the earth ball rotation is exactly 24 hours, but it isn't.
All you need to do to make sure it's still nightime at midnight after 6 months is make the earth rotation a little bit longer than 24 hours, and if you look it up you will find that that is already been factored in to the earth ball model.
I'm willing to accept I might have missed something here, because it's always tricky to thing 'outside the box'. If you can explain it to me some other way, maybe I can agree.

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by Frenetic Zetetic on Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:04 am

These two always stick with me:

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by ConsciousTruth on Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:02 pm

Yes I’ve see pictures like this before. At first it seems convincing but I can refute both of them. ( I am not a ball Earth believer - I believe the earth is flat)
The first picture is wrong because now the ball earh model, the earth simply rotated as much as it needs to so that it’s always facing the same direction at 12pm. It’s not exactly 24 hours, but that’s irrelevant because you call it whatever you want , you can say it takes ‘spoodge hours “ for that to occur and so it won’t make any difference where you are in the orbit path.
The second picture is wrong because there is no difference again where you are in the orbit. Look at it from above. Why would anything change if you are in a different part of a circle.
This stuff is a distraction from real issues such as:

How does the atmosphere rotate?
How does the atmosphere stick to the earth?
Why do all measurements show no curvature?
Why are nasa faking images of the earth?
Why is flat earth ridiculed so much?
Why are there shills?
Etc

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by RedorBlue on Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:50 am

I'm aware two different mainstream explanations of the reasons why noon is always noon and we don't have to alter our clocks .

Earth has a sidereal day is one - rotates every 23hr 56m according to this theory - but wouldn't that result in 366 days each year ? We know from solar observation  that the year is 365 days .

The other explanation involves days of differing lengths allied to changes in earth velocity around the sun . The details were quite vague and I'm sure we'd notice such changes .

Neither explanation is good for me . The explanation I am left with is that the sun travels around the earth  . I don't think the problem is a distraction but I'd need to see convincing proof to think otherwise

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by ConsciousTruth on Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:14 pm

The way I see this is like this:
In the ball earth model - the earth rotates once complete turn per day. it is irrelevant what number you put to that. You can call it 24 hours or 4536349 blobs, it is just a number.
After 6 months or after 1,000,000 months the earth will still always face the sun with the same regularity. i.e. It's just some kind of meaningless number game.
Indeed yes the confusion comes from mixing up a sidereal day with a solar day.
If the Earth faces directly the Sun every 24 hours then it will still do that after 6 months.
If the Earth rotates Sidereally exactly 360 degrees every 24 hours then it would not face the sun after 6 months.
The confusion is just between the two ideas of a day.
Again, i think it's a distraction from more interesting Flat Earth stuff.

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Re: The Motionless Earth

Post by RedorBlue on Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:15 pm

I think differently - Man has always measured the yearly cycle .
Every 365th dawn on the summer solstice the sun rises at the same point on the horizon at the same time. Think of Stonehenge where this is observed every year .
Each day is equally measured as 24 hours.
This doesn't fit the globe model at all as I see it.
The reason earth faces the sun every 24hrs is because the sun circles the earth every 24 hrs. Globe theory explanation may be (and is imo ) a meaningless number game because it can't account for this . Globe theory requires two ideas of day but observation tells us there is only one.

Is there anything within the globe model that explains this?

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