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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:40 pm

Posted by honesttruthseeker on 03/27/2015
In this day and age, with thousands of airplanes in the sky every moment, you would think someone would have circumnavigated the Earth from North Pole to South Pole and come back on the "other side of the world".

Well, apparently it has been done recently, a few months ago! check this out Pilot to overfly both poles in earth-rounding bid

B
ut then you go to this guy's FaceBook page , where he keeps his detailed log about his circumnavigation with a map of his flight.

And what do you find there? He actually has not crossed perpendicularly the Antarctic, only flew from Chile To Antarctic and then back to New Zealand. And "more powerful than forecasted winds " apparently made reaching New Zealand questionable. Or it was the greater distance due to him being on a flat earth? Hmmm

EDIT: Apparently he didn't even fly on the route he was supposed to fly, but flew Chile-South Pole , then back to Chile, then Chile to New Zealand. And this is supposed to be a North Pole - South Pole circumnavigation recognised by Guinness Book.

"Unfortunately, as I understand it, due to stronger than anticipated headwinds, after rounding the South Pole, Bill flew back to Puerto Arenas in Chile arriving at 2:35pm on January 1 according to Spidertracks. He will leave from there flying direct to New Zealand. The rules under which he is trying to break a around both poles record do allow this." Is the comment of a follower of his attempt

Anyway...this is what a North Pole - South Pole circumnavigation looks like in 2014....

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:40 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/27/2015
Thanks for posting. Yet again, we see another 'attempt' end up being something completely different to what they claimed that they would do.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:40 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/30/2015

Mar 29, 2015 17:50:03 GMT @unreal said:

if the 'South Pole' is an erroneous nomination of the closest point to land (Argentina / New Zealand) of an englobing ice-shelf, would it not be logic that the 'North Pole' also just would be a landing point on this very same ice-shelf ?

if the REAL map of the earth actually have both the 'South Pole' AND the 'North Pole' on the same (outer perimeter) ice-shelf as the two closest points to solid land, this would also make any 'North Pole' expedition impossible. in the case of the 'North Pole' we know that the most famous expedition and ‘discoveries were questionable at best, and more probable media hoaxes.

if the Azimuthal Equidistant projection is correct, there would not be any particular point to plant a flag on the South Pole,,, as this must have been known before any ‘Pole’ expedition all the mediatised ‘South Pole’ expeditions must as a result have been 'hoaxed' too,,,

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The Frederick Cook North Pole hoax




It seems that the North Pole is actually in the centre of the flat Earth, with the continents wrapped around it, and with the Antarctic at the outer edges the whole way around the planet. Have a look at Mercator's map for an example:

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1606_Mercator_Hondius_Map_of_the_Arctic_(First_Map_of_the_North_Pole)_-_Geographicus_-_NorthPole-mercator-1606.jpg 

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:41 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/30/2015

Mar 29, 2015 19:01:49 GMT @unreal said:
Mar 29, 2015 18:43:22 GMT thinkforyourself said:
It seems that the North Pole is actually in the centre of the flat Earth, with the continents wrapped around it, and with the Antarctic at the outer edges the whole way around the planet. Have a look at Mercator's map for an example:

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1606_Mercator_Hondius_Map_of_the_Arctic_(First_Map_of_the_North_Pole)_-_Geographicus_-_NorthPole-mercator-1606.jpg 


thinkforyourself: I am aware of the fact that the north pole always is displayed at the center of a circular map. dispite this habitual shape of the map, i wonder if it is the correct projection, and why it would not be more sensible that all the cold areas of the world reside close to the ice-shelf ?




You raise some good points, but I think that you don't fully realise what the North Pole is really like. 

As Mercator's maps show, the North Pole is actually a continent, not just an ice shelf. It is potentially somewhere that ancient civilisations used to live. Eric put together a great documentary that shows all of the ancient mentions of a continent with four rivers, and a large mountain: 







It is not just a snow covered area; it also has places with warm and mild temperatures, which have been hidden from us. In the 19th and 20th Centuries, many explorers described how mild it was, and said that they saw fresh water, insects, birds and other animals that cannot live in freezing conditions: 

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/Chapter4.htm

Another thing that points to the fact that the North Pole is not entirely covered in snow is the fact that birds migrate northwards towards the pole. They would only do this if the temperature was mild. 

So I don't see why the North Pole would be a continuance of the Antarctic, I think that it is just a continent that is being hidden from us, potentially because of what the Nazis discovered there, which seems to be an entrance into the Earth: 

beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/german-hollow-earth-expedition-pictures-docs-2571200.html

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:42 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/31/2015
Firstly, you say that 'it just seems logic to me that the coldest areas of the world are closely related to an outer rim of ice if there is one'. I have already explained repeatedly, that the North Pole in not a frozen Ice Shelf, it is a hidden continent, and not all of it is cold. Many explorers in the 19th and early 20th Centuries reported that the climate is actually milder the further North that you go, and birds actually migrate northwards towards the pole. 

Basically, it seems that in reality, the North Pole is actually similar to countries like Russia, Canada and the Scandinavian nations. It does have cold areas, but not all of it is cold, and it does seem that in the past, people lived there.

Secondly, I disagree with you regarding ancient drawings, pottery, sculptures, buildings, mosaics, etc. If the NWO (or PRC) have been around since that time, why would their early propaganda actually help us to reveal that the Earth is flat, that we are the centre of the universe, that the Sun moves around the Earth, and that there are demons and angels, and that there is a God/Creator? 

Why would the ancient art go completely against their current Atheistic/Global Earth approach? 

I know that they sometimes double-bluff, triple-bluff, etc, and I know that they hide many things from us, but I just cannot agree that all ancient art is disinfo. 

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:42 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 03/31/2015
I agree that most of what is said about both Poles is nonsense and NWO propaganda. I imagine that most of what we were told about people like Scott was also nonsense. 

The point that I am trying to make is this; it doesn't matter how similar the Antarctic and Arctic are, because they cannot be the same land-mass. The Sun appears for a full 24 hours a day at the Arctic at certain times in the year. It never does this at the Antarctic, despite the NWO claims that it does. Their own videos show it rising and setting when they claim that it is in the sky 24 hours a day. 

I am just not convinced that they are the same land-mass, and maps like the Mercator maps also seem to suggest that they are not attached.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:43 pm

Posted by sonofadam on 04/01/2015

Apr 1, 2015 12:54:38 GMT @unreal said:
Mar 31, 2015 18:26:10 GMT thinkforyourself said:
Yes, it could be infinite. I also often wonder what is beyond the outer edge barrier. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer. It is a shame that no-one has been able to buy a drone and get it to fly to the edge with a camera. 


hi thinkforyourself

completely agree we must find new ways to make our own surveys. what is the "reach" capacity of a drone ?

maybe a slower, more autonomous system like an tiny balloon could be made and not be visible on radar ?




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I'm new to the forum I have been lurking around reading all your amazing insights

imho the best exploration tool we can use to expose our reality is an airship because of its relative low cost






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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:43 pm

Posted by Admin on 04/01/2015
Cool idea, looks really unsteady like a strong wind would blow it over though. Welcome to the forum!

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:44 pm

Posted by schpankme on 04/02/2015
It's interesting to note the NZ Customs Service ran a fake story about looking for "Jarle Andhøy".


Some $9000 of taxpayer funds have been spent on the search for a controversial Norwegian explorer [Jarle Andhoey] 
who set sail from New Zealand on an unauthorized expedition to Antarctica.  

Customs launched a search for the 16m yacht Nilaya in late January after  Norwegian  authorities  informed  officials 
that Jarle Andhoey was thought to be planning the illegal trip to Antarctica.

Antarctica
NZ Customs Service
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NZ Rescue Co-ordination Centre
Search and Rescue
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ref:  www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10791725

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:44 pm

Posted by schpankme on 04/02/2015

Apr 2, 2015 8:49:12 GMT richthofen said:
So you think "Jarle Andhøy" doesn't exist?



I do find it strange that our Sea Going man has the name similar to Ahoy.  I will give the benefit of the doubt and say 
that he does exist, and that his website shows sales offerings for Sea Voyages.

My comment is based on them promoting "NZ Customs Service and Norwegian  Authorities"  as  dictating  who  can 
freely use the oceans, and/or explore Antarctica.  

Anyone requiring Permission or Payment for you to sail the ocean is called a Pirate.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:45 pm

Posted by pilot on 04/15/2015
The Antarctica Flights video didn't prove squat.  If you look on their website, it's a 12 hr round trip,  3hrs from Melbourne, you start seeing chunks of ice, then they fly a few more hours and turn around and go back the way they came.  SO WHAT?

The other was just insults.  Anytime an argument is begun with insults I turn off.  It's obvious they cannot prove their position with evidence, so they call names like playground bullies.

In other words, hogwash.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:45 pm

Posted by jimmytamp on 05/11/2015
May 10, 2015 18:12:22 GMT schpankme said:
May 10, 2015 18:08:02 GMT jimmytamp said:
Flying northwestbound over Norway, you can see that the horizon is totally flat!!





I'll take more picts of the "flat" horizon on my next flights...

Found some picts from my FaceBook album:

1st pict below: ( forgot where was it,sorry)
2nd pict: eastbound over North Atlantic
3rd pict: somewhere over Iran airspace

All picts show "flat" horizon...


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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:46 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/11/2015
Hey Jimmy, how can you be sure that you flew "over the North Pole?" All you really know is that you flew over what the U.S. Military-created GPS ("Global" Positioning System) told you was 90 degrees North latitude, correct? In every North Pole documentary/video I've seen no one ever takes out a compass or films star trails/readings to PROVE they are at the actual Pole, all they ever do is show a GPS that says 90 degrees North latitude, pat each other on the back and go home. How do we know that 90 degrees North latitude truly IS 90 degrees North latitude, let alone the true magnetic North Pole.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:46 pm

Posted by on 05/25/2015
Have you actually looked at the claimed routes these explorers took? They headed to the ceremonial south pole ball starting just east of south america and reaching the coast of Antarctica just west of south america. A feat that is not difficult to accomplish on flat earth. The question you should be asking is if they are on a ball, why they dont start at south america and end in Australia?

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:46 pm

Posted by lizardking on 05/25/2015

Relevant thread for your question.



As for Felicity Aston, if you go "solo" there is no one that can confirm you actually made this trip. She is originally from UK but resides in Iceland, so she could have taken these photos there, or Greenland, Siberia, etc. We're meant to believe this photo was taken when it was -30 outside, and that she traveled 30 km per day in -30 to -40 degrees with 80kg of luggage for two months. There are no proper explanations as to her clothing/food/tent etc; did she strip in -30/-40 degree weather to change clothes? Did she have to unfreeze her food every day? How did she survive the winds in her tent when Antarctica is supposedly a flat ice desert with an average altitude of almost 3000 metres?

She also set up a camera tripod to take photographs of her, from a distance, walking in the opposite direction and trying to appear 'natural.'

www.felicityaston.co.uk/latest.html

Friday 10th October 2014
"My book, 'Alone in Antarctica' is published in the US this month by the lovely people at Counterpoint Press. The release coincides with some brilliant coverage in two glossy magazines this October. I spent a fantastic day on a glacier with Icelandic photographer, Ari Magg, for the shot included in October's Vanity Fair (UK Edition) and there is a great article to promote the book in October's Marie Claire (US Edition). But perhaps the most fun photoshoot was for the 2015 Book of Guinness World Records. I had fake snow glued to my eyebrows and special 'cold' looking make-up - you can see the result this month when the 2015 edition hits the shops."

Another man who claims to have reached the Antarctic;

"Frederic Dion, 37, arrived Monday, by kite-ski, at the point in Antarctica known as the "South Pole of inaccessibility."While the spot is not quite the South Pole, it's considered the most remote and most challenging destination to reach in Antarctica because it's the farthest point from the ocean.....Because Antarctica is the windiest continent on Earth, Dion has been able to harness those winds to kite-ski several kilometres a day.....Dion arrived after just 36 days."

This means that he reached the most remote point of Antarctica in just 36 days while traveling only several kilometres per day, which would indicate that that point is only around 200-300km beyond where he started his journey, however Antarctica is supposed to be twice the size of Australia.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:47 pm

Posted by dameethyltriptwthme on 05/25/2015
Andrea Barnes. I don't know much about her, just a little Canadian Documentary from the 90s that mentioned her traversing the Arctic Desert alone on a snowmobile to discover the edge and never returning. Anyone else have any info on her?

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:47 pm

Posted by lizardking on 05/25/2015
Found this after a Google search.



Was Andrea Barns (or Barnes) a real person? There seems to be no record of her.

Google's only references to Andrea Barnes are a link to the the film maker's website and few Facebook/LinkedIn links to various people also named "Andrea Barnes". If this was a real explorer one would think there would be other references to her somewhere.

I did find this discussion on a teaching website who states the film was an exercise in critical thinking and not an actual "documentary".

"In Search of the Edge was produced as a “fake science” video in defense of the current Flat Earth explanation: that it is a disk-shaped earth with the North Pole in the center, and an ice wall on the outer edge. The ice wall is compatible with observations of Antarctica. The video format is similar to the one used in science programs such as Nova. “Experts” are interviewed to explain the principles of the Flat Earth. The human interest element of the program is the story of Andrea Barnes who is intent on traveling to the ice wall to prove that the Earth is flat, contrary to what she was forced to learn in school. The Flat Earth “experts” and their explanations are humorous to those who understand the tongue-in-cheek presentations.

While the video is a wonderful spoof, a careful debrief is essential for an audience of people of any age who take what they see on television as fact. The unintended consequences of an incomplete debrief may be selling the Flat Earth concept, a lesson I learned while teaching a college general education science class a few years ago.

"Andrea Barns" did not go to Antarctica...or anywhere else for that matter.

Even the film maker's website explains the objective and filming process of the movie. The film was intended as a learning exercise for grade school students. There's a work sheet at the end of the attachment...good luck. 

www.bullfrogfilms.com/guides/searchguide.pdf


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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:48 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/25/2015

May 25, 2015 2:51:22 GMT dameethyltriptwthme said:
Andrea Barnes. I don't know much about her, just a little Canadian Documentary from the 90s that mentioned her traversing the Arctic Desert alone on a snowmobile to discover the edge and never returning. Anyone else have any info on her?




The FES documockery "In Search of the Edge," is the only place I can find any mention of her on the internet. Did she really exist? She supposedly took a snowmobile to discover the edge traversing the ANTARCTIC, not the Arctic. The documentary claims someone found her snowmobile with a note claiming "she'd found it" meaning the edge/dome or whatever. But this is all heresay just like the people claiming to have crossed Antarctica, or Mark Sargent claiming Byrd found the dome... heresay and speculation, not proof. I would also like to hear if there is any more information on this mythic woman Andrea Barnes, does anyone know?




As with all disinfo, there is plenty of good flat Earth info in here, but plenty of false arguments and purposeful ridiculousness as well.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:48 pm

Posted by Admin on 05/25/2015
Nice find Lizardking! Yes, the entire production was made to be shown to school kids to further brainwash them against the flat Earth. After watching they are told to raise their hands if they now think the Earth might be flat. Then they get a worksheet and start a ball-Earth unit where they learn all the ball-Earth explanations and refute all the strawman flat Earth arguments they set up with the movie. Then the student's crushed intellect thereafter remains forever skewed against the flat Earth and they buy into the balls 100%

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:48 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 05/25/2015

May 25, 2015 2:51:22 GMT dameethyltriptwthme said:
Andrea Barnes. I don't know much about her, just a little Canadian Documentary from the 90s that mentioned her traversing the Arctic Desert alone on a snowmobile to discover the edge and never returning. Anyone else have any info on her?


The whole thing stinks more than a dead man's fart to me. 

I don't believe that she ever existed, and think that it is simply FES bullshit (just in case you didn't know, the FES are controlled opposition). 

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:49 pm

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May 25, 2015 20:43:46 GMT harry said:
so much energy is wasted by squabbling... Have you ever wasted your time reading the comments on youtube video's? its 98% squabbling! I wonder if most of those accounts are just fake computer generated hate programs, to cause massive turmoil.


I try to spend as little time as possible doing it, but it must be done, because we are not the Youtube comment section, we are a proper Research Society Forum. 

We need to route them out and stop them from spreading lies and disinfo, in order to confuse and mislead us. I will not let them win.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:49 pm

Posted by Admin on 06/14/2015
Yes, at the very North Pole, many cultures have described, "the day of the gods," has only one day per year, where about five months are 24 hour daylight, then there is approximately a month of dusk followed by a 5 month dark winter, ending with a month-long dawn of the new year. This video (if authentic) was taken somewhere quite near the North Pole:





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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:50 pm

Posted by neweyes on 06/20/2015
gallette...I'm just going out on a limb here, since I'm still in the midst of doing research for that area. What I've found so far, being in Canada, is that our gov't is throwing a lot of money into the 'Northern Strategy' program..apparently for science & tech.
The 'Canada Research Station in the High Arctic' (CHARS) is completing an existing? network of facilities up there in Cambridge, Nunavit. Apparently there'll be an 'International Polar Year'...dunno if that's to commemorate the building of this facility by summer 2017. We also signed to the U.N. Commission of the Law of the Sea. Hmm...more digging needed. There's also a new Canadian Forces Training Center underway, and the coast guard's getting new ships for patrolling, plus the largest, most powerful ice breaker in history.
There's also an island up there (wish I knew the location), called Air Force Island, established long ago. 
It's been public knowledge for as long as I can remember as being a well guarded area, and even tho we broke away from British rule long ago, the english took over the north shortly after conquering this country. They grabbed as much northern turf as possible, when we have so much habitable land than that to be snatched up at the time.
They actually took hundreds First Nations people from an eastern province (Quebec), and relocated them up there back in the 50's, in order to reinforce their flag, and show the world it was more than rock and ice. Sadly, there's still folks around today who've recounted the horrid ordeal in books and docs. Literally put them on ships, sailed for days, and dropped them off...no food...no water..nothing.
I wouldn't put it past 'em (military),to use some form of frequency waves/weapons in order to mess with anyone trying to get a visual or fly by. After all, below that deep ice shelf, is the world's largest stash of oil...just waiting to get drilled. I'm merely following the money on that one. Yet, it could have a lot to do with that real estate hiding more secrets that may uncover part of the flat earth mystery.
I'm still digging into it all, and the connecting dots are leading back to the UN/British Empire/military. Why am I not surprised. Plus, they've had the Alert Bay early warning base there ever since the fear of ruskies shooting nuclear bombs over our country to hit the US. Prolly was another psy-op to protect whatever satanic shit's going down in that area.
www.northernstrategy.gc.ca/sov/cae-fra.asp
Click the 'translate' button, top right, since they conveniently printed it in French.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:51 pm

Posted by neweyes on 06/20/2015
PS. I also find this logo for the Arctic Council very interesting too.

arcticportal.org/images/stories/news_logos/arctic_council.png

Remind you of anything? lol Too bad the (sly) fox covers a bit of it.

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