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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:47 am

Posted by susie on 05/20/2015
Where is the curve?

Mt McKinley from Anchorage, Alaska

PLACES TO VIEW MT MCKINLEY:

1. Anchorage International Airport Terminal
When you arrive at the airport, see if you can glimpse McKinley to the north as you walk out the terminal door.

2. Earthquake Park in Anchorage
While in Anchorage, drive west on Northern Lights Boulevard to scenic Earthquake Park overlooking the waters of Cook Inlet. On a clear day you’ll see Mt. Foraker (17,400 ft.) on the left and Mt. McKinley (20,320 ft.) on the right. Best viewing is in the evening.

3. Driving Through Willow on the Parks Highway
As you drive north from Anchorage up the George Parks Highway toward Denali Park, you’ll start seeing brief glimpses of Mt. McKinley, looming up in the middle of the road, starting at Milepost 69.

4. As You Enter the Town of Talkeetna
A hundred miles north of Anchorage, on the Parks Highway, you’ll come to a spur road that goes 14.5 miles back toward the old railroad town of Talkeetna. Although you’re still 124 miles from the entrance to Denali Park, the mountain is very close here. On a clear day, Mt. McKinley, Mt. Foraker, and many other mountains and foothills of the Alaska Range are in full view. Stop at the hilltop pullout, just before you enter Talkeetna, to take a picture.

5. Trapper Creek & Petersville Road
When you leave Talkeetna, you’ll go back onto the Parks Highway. The next stop on the way north, at Milepost 115, is Trapper Creek. The views of Mt. McKinley from Trapper Creek and the Petersville Road, a former mining trail that skirts the southside of McKinley, are exceptional. 

6. “Denali Viewpoint South” at Mile 135 Parks
On your way to Denali National Park, you’ll drive through Denali State Park. The views of the mountain from this state park are unparalleled. The Alaska State Park system has built pullouts with displays and telescopes pointed at the mountain. Several lodges also have excellent views.

7. “Denali Viewpoint North” at Mile 163 Parks 
At Mile 163, you’ll come across the second Denali Viewpoint – again with displays. Notice that your perspective on the mountain is starting to shift. As you continue to travel farther north, from this point, Mt. McKinley will move to the south – even though you’re headed toward the official park entrance.

8. The Pulloff at Mile 9 on the Park Road
You won’t see Denali from the park entrance, like you did farther south. To view the mountain while in Denali National Park, you’ll take a bus down the Park Road. Your first view of the mountain is at Mile 9. 

9. Reflection Pond at Wonder Lake
Deep inside Denali National Park, at the end of a 6 hour, 85-mile bus ride, you’ll come to Wonder Lake and Reflection Pond. If it’s a good day, you’ll get a classic view of Mt. McKinley, reflected in the water.

10. The University Campus Overlook in Fairbanks
Finally, you can see the mountain from Fairbanks. Drive to the University of Alaska campus in Fairbanks and see Mt. McKinley from the university’s scenic overlook, near the university museum.

www.denali101.com/denalinationalpark/see_mt_Mckinley.html

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Mt. McKinley Viewpoints: Great Places to See The Great One

For many folks, a trip to Alaska isn’t complete without seeing Mt. McKinley, and with good reason—North America’s tallest peak (20,320 feet), commonly called Denali, is beautiful. From afar, it’s massive. And up close, the sheer granite walls, alpine glaciers, and pillowing snow cornices are otherworldly.
But actually seeing the mountain can be difficult; Denali is so big it makes its own weather, and it’s completely shrouded by clouds roughly 1/3 of the time. Still, with clouds, storms, fog, and sunny high-pressure systems all battling it out around Mt. McKinley, the peak can appear at any moment. And you can even see it from Anchorage, 125 miles away! You might see it from downtown, from a river rafting trip outside Talkeetna, driving the Parks Highway from Anchorage to Fairbanks, or while on a flightseeing trip or Alaska Railroad tour.
Here are the best places and ways to see the peak. Now you just need the weather to cooperate!
Flightseeing Trips
Flightseeing tours leave from Anchorage, Talkeetna, or Denali Park, and other than climbing the mountain, there’s no more intimate and impressive way to see Mt. McKinley. Tours fly over the mountain, around it, or up to its edge; either way, you’ll get up close to its snowfields, alpine glaciers, deep crevasses, and sheer granite walls. You can even select a flight with a glacier landing, where you’ll land on a glacier and walk through Denali’s icy alpine world! In a couple hours you’ll probably see more beautiful, dramatic, and savage mountain scenery than anywhere else in your life. It’s not cheap, but it’s one of the best things you can do in the state. Click here for a comparison of the top flights.
Talkeetna
McKinley View Pullout
Talkeetna Riverfront Park
Deck of Talkeetna Alaskan Lodge
Denali Park Road
The Denali Park Road offers several opportunities to see Mt. McKinley. This famous road, closed to private vehicles after Mile 15, runs 91 miles into the heart of the park and the flanks of Mt. McKinley. There are several viewpoints within the first 20 miles, but the farther you travel, the bigger the mountain gets. And after the Eielson Visitor Center, the summit is in view for 15 miles. Tour buses and park shuttle buses are permitted to drive the road, which ends at Kantishna, an old mining town turned lodging enclave.
First McKinley View (Mile 9) - Accessible by private vehicle
Primrose Ridge (Mile 16)
Stony Hill Overlook (Mile 62)
Eilson Visitor Center (Mile 66)
Wonder Lake (Mile 85)
Anchorage
There are a few good places in Anchorage to see the mountain, and here
are the most promising locations:
Point Woronzof - The best free spot. Here, you’re looking across Knik Arm and the view is completely unobstructed. It’s not a wilderness experience, since you’re under the flight path of the airport, but the view is clear and makes for great photos in soft evening light.
Earthquake Park - Provides a similar, but often less crowded view than Point Woronzof.
The Crow's Nest - Feast on fresh Alaska seafood while overlooking Anchorage & McKinley.
Flattop Mountain at Glen Alps - Either hike to the top of Flattop for expansive views of Anchorage and Denali or follow the relatively easy Glen Alps View Loop for a equally breathtaking view.
JC Penney Parking Garage - On clear days, take the stairs or elevator to the top of the garage and look north to spy McKinley poking above Knik Arm and Point MacKenzie.
Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport - If you walk outside from the ticketing counters, Denali may be visible on the horizon.
www.alaska.org/guide/mt-mckinley-viewpoints


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Re: Flat Earth Image Proofs

Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:47 am

Posted by schpankme on 05/20/2015
As you know, there is no curve, welcome to the Flat Earth!    





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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:48 am

Posted by madhatter on 05/23/2015
I was watching a documentary today on plane crashes(morbid topic I know), and I noticed something very intriguing in the background. I just wondered what you guys make of it, maybe look at the video on YouTube and get back to me your thoughts?


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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:48 am

Posted by lizardking on 05/23/2015


Someone else posted this and then deleted it.

"The image above was taken on October 24, 1946, from an altitude of 65 miles above the surface of New Mexico. It was captured by a 35-millimeter motion picture camera as that camera was propelled skyward on a German V-2 missile. It is, officially, the first photo of Earth to be taken from space."

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:48 am

Posted by thinkforyourself on 05/23/2015
May 22, 2015 19:27:56 GMT madhatter said:
I was watching a documentary today on plane crashes(morbid topic I know), and I noticed something very intriguing in the background. I just wondered what you guys make of it, maybe look at the video on YouTube and get back to me your thoughts?

Thanks for posting; that Map certainly does look interesting. I wonder if it appears elsewhere in the documentary? Maybe from another angle? 


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Mt McKinley from Anchorage.

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Posted by susie on 05/25/2015


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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:49 am

Posted by susie on 05/25/2015
Basically, put in "horizon" in a photo search and everything not Fisheye lenses comes up with flat horizons. No matter the distance between points on the horizon, the horizon remains flat except for any surface differential (mountains, buildings, trees)

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:50 am

Posted by susie on 05/25/2015

Notice the hot spot on top of the surface of the water and the angle of beams of sunlight.

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Posted by susie on 05/26/2015

View from Denali (Mt McKinley)

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Posted by susie on 05/26/2015
 
New Orleans on the horizon. No curve here either.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:51 am

Posted by lizardking on 05/26/2015


Arizona’s Grand Canyon

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Posted by Observicus on 05/26/2015



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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:51 am

Posted by theorist on 05/26/2015
Nothing is leaning backwards either.

Mathematicians... how many degrees "tilted back" would a 45 degree mountain face actually be if it were 130 miles away on a round Earth curving at 8 inches per mile squared?

Would the face even appear to be horizontal itself?! That sounds dramatic but it has to lean some amount.

Think about how insane the ball is now.   

The fact that you can see the mountains face on shows us there's no curve or leaning back.

This is perhaps just as damning as the fact that what appears to be over 80% of the height of the mountain is visible.

As they used to say back in the day FET 1 RET 0  

RET never won one, ever. Only very early on I thought RET had a few points because I didn't understand a lot of the flat Earth claims and how they do all check out, I was only in it for a laugh. Now the "laugh" is the ball lol. Swings and roundabouts.  

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:52 am

Posted by dan on 05/26/2015
One of the common sense points I love about debunking the spinning ball is the oceans and rivers. Oceons in the southern hemisphere would have to curve upwards dramatically (even more dramatically after they introduced the 23.5 degree tilt) and rivers all over the earth would have to flow upwards, downwards and sideways at all angles at the same time for their model to work. What a wonderful and amazing force gravity is hey? Lol. I always have a chuckle to myself thinking about those brave sailors passing the equator and heading straight downhill (inverted) like one of those insane roller coasters. I wonder, do they all raise their hands above their head and scream as this happens? Would love to see a vid of that lol.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:52 am

Posted by susie on 05/27/2015
Distance squared multiplied by the curvature which with their own figures is approximately 8 inches per mile. Spherical trigonometry. 

If something is 50 miles away it would be 50x50x8. Divide that by inches per foot or meters whichever you use.
That tells you the amount of curve.

Also remember on a sphere the curve is in all directions so if you see a flat horizon that stretches 50 miles from left to right the curve is going to be 1,667 ft approximately. If the horizon is actually flat you will not see that 1,667 ft curve from left to right.

All horizon pictures are flat. Look it up. Only fish eye lenses curve it.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:52 am

Posted by Admin on 05/27/2015


"IF the earth is a globe, and is 25,000 English statute miles in circumference, the surface of all standing water must have a certain degree of convexity--every part must be an arc of a circle. From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature or declination of 8 inches in the first statute mile. In the second mile the fall will be 32 inches; in the third mile, 72 inches, or 6 feet, as shown in the diagram. Let the distance from T to figure 1 represent 1 mile, and the fall from 1 to A, 8 inches; then the fall from 2 to B will be 32 inches, and from 3 to C, 72 inches. In every mile after the first, the curvature downwards from the point T increases as the square of the distance multiplied by 8 inches. The rule, however, requires to be modified after the first thousand miles. 1 The following table will show at a glance the amount of curvature, in round numbers, in different distances up to 100 miles." -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham (See his entire chart here)

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:52 am

Posted by dan on 05/27/2015
This is the level of brainwashing that humankind has been exposed to. Where in nature does water curve when it is still? Where in nature can we pour water on an object and it follows that objects curve? Ohh only the ball earth? Ok. Just the fact that people are debating this shows how deep the brainwashing and indoctrination goes. I love your work Eric and all other genuine flat earthers in waking people up but I fear that the majority of people can never get past their brainwashed closed mind and actually think critically and logically. Water never curves and water will never curve in our reality. I read recently that the church of england jumped on the ball earth theory in the 1600s, replaced all the textbooks and started teaching kids in schools the ball earth theory as if it was fact. Copernicus even admitted that his model was just a theory but 500 years later it is a fact? People can attack Eric's research sharing experiments and books from 100, 200 years ago but it's ok to accept a 500 year old theory as fact? Does that really make sense? Ah it makes sense cause nasa confirmed it. Ok.

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:53 am

Posted by susie on 06/01/2015

May 27, 2015 16:20:42 GMT theorist said:
May 26, 2015 16:28:34 GMT Admin said:
What does this even mean? Some of your comments have been getting pretty weird. Please remember Theorist, that this forum is for Flat Earth RESEARCH, not strange, difficult to understand FE theories.


Sorry I just never heard any theories about any of it and hate not understanding any of that side of it.

Going from a heliocentric model to geocentric throws up so many new questions.

From the last post, yes I have told people there's no curved water anywhere and they do accept this fact (let's not underestimate that people can still think in some capacity lol) but they still don't agree that the Earth is flat. 







Even by their own numbers 71% of the earth's surface is water. How in the hell can 71% be flat on anything round?

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:53 am

Posted by Observicus on 06/11/2015
The photographer just published this picture on a popular image website stating how beautiful and calm the earth is
after storms the previous evening but it's unclear whether they know that it perfectly captures the overhead sun in action.
Looks familiar though.



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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:54 am

Posted by Observicus on 06/12/2015
The poster was asked if they knew how far away the ship was (near Galveston Texas) on the horizon, and responded with 15 to 20 km.
Does anyone know what the typical distance is to the horizon standing at the seashore on a clear day?

Container ship average maximum height including draft and cargo of 40' high cube dry containers is about 42.4 m for the Post New Panamax.
Container ship average maximum height including draft and cargo of 40' dry containers is about 39.35 m for the Post New Panamax.
Container ship average maximum height including draft and cargo of 40' dry containers is about 26.81 m for the Panamax.

Empty Post New Panamax height is 15.5 meters.
Empty Panamax Max height is 15.5 meters.
Empty Panamax height is 12.5 meters.

15 km distance = curvature adjustment of about 17 meters.

Forty Foot Container High Top Height: 2.690 meters = 8.8254 foot
Forty Foot Container Dry Height: 2.385 meters = 7.8248 foot

The average empty Panamax Max needs to be within 12.87 km (8 miles) for the ship to be partly visible above the horizon.
(curvature value of 13m or 42.7 feet)





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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:54 am

Posted by susie on 06/12/2015

Jun 11, 2015 18:34:59 GMT Observicus said:
The photographer just published this picture on a popular image website stating how beautiful and calm the earth is

The poster was asked if they knew how far away the ship was (near Galveston Texas) on the horizon, and responded with 15 to 20 km.

Does anyone know what the typical distance is to the horizon standing at the seashore on a clear day?





I dont know about all that but wow look at that hotspot on the water!

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Posted by Lifeone on 06/14/2015
360gigapixels.com/london-320-gigapixel-panorama/

Great way to show the flat horizon with high resolution, 360 degree views from long distances.  

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Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:54 am

Posted by Lifeone on 06/14/2015
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Re: Flat Earth Image Proofs

Post by Thinkforyourself on Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:55 am

Posted by sheriffrowdy1982 on 06/15/2015


I posted this one on a different thread earlier today that I took while underway few years ago. At the time the Earth was round. Lol Typical distance to the horizon from what I've been taught is 12 nautical miles. Damn look at how straight that horizon is.

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