What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by Haze on Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:45 am

Thinkforyourself wrote:[b]

Question: Do we know what are the Ancient's beliefs about the cause of the tides?

This might be a stupid question, but where does the ocean go when the tides retreat? confused

The Ancient Greeks described the deepest circle of Hades as Tartarus: "the deeper part where no light shines and all waters originate. All rivers flow into the chasm of Tartarus and flow out of it again."

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by thesilentone on Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:20 am

Haze wrote:
Thinkforyourself wrote:[b]

Question: Do we know what are the Ancient's beliefs about the cause of the tides?

This might be a stupid question, but where does the ocean go when the tides retreat?  confused

The Ancient Greeks described the deepest circle of Hades as Tartarus: "the deeper part where no light shines and all waters originate. All rivers flow into the chasm of Tartarus and flow out of it again."

Sounds an awfully lot like at the bottom of Mount Meru.

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by Haze on Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:57 pm

thesilentone wrote:
Haze wrote:
Thinkforyourself wrote:[b]

Question: Do we know what are the Ancient's beliefs about the cause of the tides?

This might be a stupid question, but where does the ocean go when the tides retreat?  confused

The Ancient Greeks described the deepest circle of Hades as Tartarus: "the deeper part where no light shines and all waters originate. All rivers flow into the chasm of Tartarus and flow out of it again."

Sounds an awfully lot like at the bottom of Mount Meru.

It's the same place. Where the roots of the World Tree are watered.

There are three cosmic zones. the Heavens, the Earth and the Underworld.

The Holy Mountain at the Earth's Center and the Tree of Life are interchangeable.

The images of the World-Tree and the Tree of Life are closely related and often merge. Sometimes they are replaced by the image of a cosmic mountain, which is also located at the center of the Universe and which likewise generates and sustains all life.

Yggdrasil dwells within the invisible heart of anything and everything and without it's support everything would disintegrate and explode into infinity. The mythological imagery of widely separated cultures expresses the same themes.

A creation myth of the Maoris tells of a world-tree, which was the first thing to be formed at the center of the still void Universe. It sprouted from an energy vortex, known as the cosmic navel. (North Pole.) From the myriad buds of the all-encompassing tree all creation emerged.

A similar myth comes from Persia where we find references to a 'Tree of all Seeds', which stood at the center of a magical garden known as Pairidaeza, the Persian paradise. This garden was associated with the Virgin Goddess Pairidaeza who represented the eternal regenerative womb from which all life proceeds. In her garden the 'Tree of all seeds' grew next to the Tree of Knowledge.

Similarly, in Mayan cosmology the World-Tree is a unifying symbol that represents the origin of all existence. The Cosmic Tree is commonly described as the source of a special divine substance, a sacred nectar of immortality and ambrosia of the Gods.

The ancient holy scriptures known as the 'Rig Vedas' (Indus Valley) refer to this mythical substance as 'Amrita' or 'Soma'. In Persia it was known as Haoma, while the Eddas describe it as 'golden apples stored in Valhalla.' I think this represents prana/chi.

The same image is repeated in other mythologies, in which the World Tree is often described as the place where disembodied souls dwell prior to their reincarnation. Underneath the roots of the tree that grows at the centre of the paradisiacal garden, flows the sacred river that carries the waters of life.

The quest of the mythological hero, who embarks on an adventure to search for the World Tree, or a sacred mountain at the center of Universe, is a metaphor for the quest of psychological realignment with one's own inner center and spiritual source.

The journey is usually beset with peril and impending danger for it is a quest of transformation that requires the sacrifice of the ego.

The tree, mountain and pillar represents the 'axis-mundi', the immovable central pole of the Universe around which all life revolves. In this cosmology, humans and Gods essentially share the same dimension, though on somewhat different levels.


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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by AmericanInIndia on Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:11 pm

In the Bangkok airport there is a huge mural of the demigods and demons churning the ocean. So the whole thing could be explained by that. The ocean being drawn inward is the gods pulling the rope and the ocean being churned back out is the demons pulling the rope, with Mount Meru at its center. This is a story from the Srimad Bhagavatam and I was shocked when I first saw that huge mural in the Bangkok airport.

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by csp on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:25 am

It doesn't appear to me a mural, but an actual statue - is this what you are referring to:

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Very good question

Post by Billuk64 on Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:36 pm

As a teenager I got into sea fishing with a couple of friends and we used to go to the local pier , a mile long it is , to fish on a regular basis. The pier pointed towards France so was open to tides only from the east of the English channel. During the tide run , as it is known , you cast into the sea using an 8 oz or 10 oz weight , with a baited line of course , as a minimum to try to get your bait to " hold" on the seabed so to speak. During the height of the tide run this was a very tricky business and took patience. It seemed as if the fish actually fed more during he tide run as well , usually " slack water " yielded very few fish.
When i got older in my 20`s a friend and I went out on a boat to the breakwater ( see a photo of Dover in Kent UK ) to fish and this huge structure , built before WW1 , runs parallel to the beach and is free standing at either end. We were shocked to find that out here , again about a mile offshore, the tidal run was not just from the east but from the west as well . So  the tides were running east to west and west to eat in the channel , this may seem obvious now but to us it was new. Another thing about these fishing trips was that you can buy tide tables , now online of course , and plan the best times to go bearing the tides in mind . So obviously somehow " they " can tell in advance when the high tide will be and how high it will be etc. This means of course that tides are as regular as clockwork , so I can see how "they" could quite easily and convincingly tie in the tides with the phases of the moon. To me thinking about it this is one of the deepest mysteries we are confronted with and if we can answer this we may get closer to the truth than ever.
All the Best , Bill.

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Re: What Causes The Ocean's Tides?

Post by FL@T-E@RTH on Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:54 am

I think the tides are somehow tied in to electromagnetism and the Schumann Resonances
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

Obviously a Wikipedia link is as good as hearsay, and most of mainstream science is half-truths and obfuscation
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