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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 pm


Posted by Admin on 06/28/2015

Eric Dubay Everything is cataloged here in this thread for everyone who wants to see the truth instead of listen to Jeran carry on with his lies about me and IFERS:ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism You have been formally accused of stealing that money Jeran, and JeranCampanella.com was created by the man who accused you of stealing the $80,000. I'm sure you will maintain that you did not, but I am just stating what I have read, that is NOT libel. On that website that was made about you it claims that you threatened him much like you're doing to me now! web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ If you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about man, I'm just reporting what people on IFERS dug up about your past.
Just saying hi! Happy to be here! Jeranism | The International Flat Earth Research...
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Jeranism Changer LOL
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Jeranism Changer You are fucking done. I will go to court then. What an idiot! I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR
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Jeran's insane rant as follows:
Jeranism Changer I wrote for cryptocoinnews.com
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Eric Dubay Go to court with what? That I reported on someone's accusation of you? Good luck with that.
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Jeranism Changer www.cryptocoinsnews.com/author/jeran-campanella/
Jeran Campanella, Author at CCN: Financial Bitcoin News
I'm a married, self employed husband, father, friend...
cryptocoinsnews.com
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Jeranism Changer YOU ACCUSED ME
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Jeranism Changer I have it screen shot
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Jeranism Changer You have publicly stated that I stole $80,000 WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH DO YOU CALL THIS?
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Eric Dubay You can read it yourself: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ Please explain yourself.
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella…
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Jeranism Changer bitscan.com/articles/author/4302
Bitcoin News, Analysis, Interviews and Features - BitScan App for iPhone - The World of Bitcoin...
bitscan.com
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Jeranism Changer I also wrote for bitscan you idiot
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Jeranism Changer That is being reported by the guy who stole the $80k!!!
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Jeranism Changer DO you think police don't do their job?
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Eric Dubay Right, he said that you stole it, but you say that he stole it, correct?
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Jeranism Changer If I was guilty of anything I would be arrested you fool! You did no research! You cannot just post things you find on the internet on a page that the FBI has removed OMG
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Jeranism Changer This is classic
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Jeranism Changer NO! He is wanted by the FBI
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Jeranism Changer I'm right here clown! Call the police. Call the FBI
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Jeranism Changer I was the one that found out about him so he posted that as retaliation
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Jeranism Changer YOU DID ZERO RESEARCH YOU FOOL
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Jeranism Changer See what happens?
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Jeranism Changer You got so fucking paranoid you fucking made up a story! How would I be Dr. Michael Moriarty? You think I just slipped the FBI? Wow. I was writing for bitcoin sites as I explained and got an admissionof guilt from Moriarty
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Jeranism Changer What do you want? All emails? Between me and Ricky James? Me and Moriarty? All the ICANN and Corespndence with IC3?
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Jeranism Changer OMG you posted something from the way back machine? That was pulled when the investigators saw it was from him.
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Eric Dubay What's your proof that that guy exists? The only record of his existence I can find is your text interview with him.
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Eric Dubay His picture looks a lot like Connor McGregor in a top hat smile emoticon
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Jeranism Changer My evidence... anything you want... emails?
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Jeranism Changer I have months worth? Vancouver police reports
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Jeranism Changer HOW COULD I BE GUILTY IF I USE MY REAL NAME
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Eric Dubay Anyway Jeran, to appease your wishes I will state that I have no idea what happened with this case. Someone at IFERS brought it to my attention. You were indeed accused of this, but I personally will not weigh in on the legitimacy of the claims, okay?
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Jeranism Changer I can't believe of all people you just post this shit when I worked so hard for 7 months to recover funds from a scammer because I felt bad AND IT WAS NO FAULT OF MINE
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Jeranism Changer You already did!
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Eric Dubay You asked me to formally retract that statement, though, so I am.
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Jeranism Changer I worked my ass off to catch a scammer- I am no longer involved in bitcoin because this can happen
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Jeranism Changer This man set-up fake sites in the dozens, stole money and isn't real and with TOR and Proxies stole over $245,000
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Eric Dubay They haven't caught him yet though right?
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Jeranism Changer No he isn't real! How do you catch him?
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Jeranism Changer You don't think my ip was checked when I AM THE ONE WHO GOT THE ADMISSION?
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Eric Dubay Who created his persona?
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Jeranism Changer Haha oh wow. How would I know? We had several leads, about 3-4 names but they are people who are scammers
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Jeranism Changer His name is Eddie Temple
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Jeranism Changer same guy who runs this dockets.justia.com/.../waedce/2:2011mc00007/54559
craigslist Inc v. Tse et al
Other case filed on July 29, 2011 in the Washington Eastern District Court
dockets.justia.com
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Jeranism Changer Also goes by Shui Young Richard Tse
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Jeranism Changer Also runs operations under Eddie Temple Promotions LTD
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Jeranism Changer He lost a 1.6 million dollar case to Craigs List and they couldn't find him
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Jeranism Changer That's why bitcoin is no good. Nobody could have done this with money or PayPal or credit cards or checks.
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Eric Dubay Alright dude, I appreciate hearing your side of it, I was just reporting on what I'd read.
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Jeranism Changer That's not cool!
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Jeranism Changer Where you read what?
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Jeranism Changer Show me where you read that I stole $80,000
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Eric Dubay It's publicly available on the internet: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella…
web.archive.org
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Jeranism Changer And why you wouldn't come to me first
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Jeranism Changer DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
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Jeranism Changer Who would make a site in someone else's name?
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Jeranism Changer the site name was jerancampanella.com
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Eric Dubay Wasn't that site created by the person who accused you?
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Jeranism Changer Do you think that if you extorted me or blackmailed me I would make ericdubay.com or call the goddamn police
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Jeranism Changer Accused me? THAT ISN'T HOW YOU ACCUSE PEOPLE
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Jeranism Changer It was made by an anonymous website scammer
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Eric Dubay So an anonymous website scammer decided to make a website with your full name and accuse you of scamming?
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Jeranism Changer Of course it was... I outed him and got his admission
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Jeranism Changer WHO ELSE WOULD?
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Eric Dubay Where is his admission?
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Jeranism Changer Wow dude I have lost all respect. You can't even use your brain
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Jeranism Changer If I did a crime I would be arrested
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Jeranism Changer I'll show you even though we should be incourt
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Jeranism Changer YOU ARE AN ASS Eric Dubay
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Jeranism Changer One sec
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Eric Dubay Why am I an ass who can't use his brain for asking questions?
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Jeranism Changer
Jeranism Changer's photo.
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Jeranism Changer hold up- that is when he responded he had no idea the accusation
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Jeranism Changer
Jeranism Changer's photo.
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Jeranism Changer Wait- what did you say to me?
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Jeranism Changer Why am I an ass who can't use his brain for asking questions?
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Jeranism Changer what does this mean^
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Eric Dubay Yes, you called me an ass and said I can't use my brain.
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Eric Dubay apparently because I've asked you questions
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Jeranism Changer Dude- you did no research and said publicly that I stole $80k
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Jeranism Changer You could ask me first
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Kenneth DeGrasse apologize. shake hands. get back to work.
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Jeranism Changer How in the hell would I be out and about under my real name if what you said was true?
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Jeranism Changer
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Jeranism Changer This is the kind of person I am Eric Dubay
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Jeranism Changer I was offerred hush money by this thief
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Jeranism Changer I refused and he finally admitted to the theft
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Eric Dubay But he hasn't been caught?
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Jeranism Changer How many times do I have to tell you that we tried for 7 months
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Jeranism Changer I was trying to do good and I had my name dragged through the mud
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Jeranism Changer spent 100's of hours tracking him and all for a few leads
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Jeranism Changer this is why bitcoin is badd
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Eric Dubay How do we know you aren't Michael Moriarty? He sounds a lot like you in those emails and that's what the person who made that website accused you of.
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Jeranism Changer once you pay in btc, it is gone. The customer sent him 80k and he kept it
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Jeranism Changer OMG.. You don't think this was checked? IP addresses Eric Dubay
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Eric Dubay You could've shifted the blame to this fake guy to clear yourself. After 7 months they gave up? IP addresses can be changed.
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Jeranism Changer Do you want the phone # for the Detectives? IP3? Ricky James? Who?
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Eric Dubay We already have all that on IFERS
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Eric Dubay If you have nothing to hide, this publicly available information shouldn't be a concern.
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Jeranism Changer YOU SAID I STOLE 80k you clown
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Jeranism Changer Eric you want to know the sad truth?
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Jeranism Changer The real truth of bitcoin?
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Eric Dubay What's that?
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Jeranism Changer bitlaunder.com/
Launder Bitcoin
Completely erase the origins of your bitcoin and de-couple them from previous transactions. We...
bitlaunder.com
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Jeranism Changer He still runs the sites
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Eric Dubay MM?
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Jeranism Changer coinchimp.com/
Anonymous Bitcoin Exchange
CoinChimp enables you to buy and sell Bitcoins with cash in your local city quickly, easily and anonymously....
coinchimp.com
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Jeranism Changer All Dr. Michael Moriarty
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Jeranism Changer Yes MM
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Jeranism Changer WTF
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Eric Dubay WTF What?
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Jeranism Changer Call the police and have them come check me. You are unbelievable
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Jeranism Changer Because with bitcoin- as I said- you can steal
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Jeranism Changer The money is not traceable and he just keeps going
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Jeranism Changer Do you want to talk to Ricky James?
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Eric Dubay I'm just responding to your diatribe, I'm not on a witch hunt, people on IFERS were digging stuff up and I reported on what I read. I'm not interested in pursuing you or this matter. You tagged me and threatened me so I'm here responding to your threats.
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Jeranism Changer hold on he made a pdf
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Eric Dubay I've seen the pdf
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Jeranism Changer SO you already know
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Jeranism Changer Call Ricky
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Eric Dubay I've read, but I don't know, I'm just looking at the evidence from all angles.
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Jeranism Changer Call Detective Fenton Vancouver police
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Jeranism Changer NO YOU ARENT YOU SAID I STOLE 80k
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Eric Dubay I've retracted my statement per your threat.
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Jeranism Changer Is this how you treat evidence? You took no time and trusted your paranoid little clan
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Eric Dubay You demanded I retract said statement and tagged me in your diatrbie.
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Jeranism Changer on my Youtube and your site?
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Eric Dubay Just a sec.
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Jeranism Changer You have showed your true colors Mr. Eric Dubay
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Jeranism Changer Unbelievable that you would make that claim using no evidence other than a site in my own name calling me a scammer?
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Don Adams This is to funny!!!!
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Jeranism Changer Cool Don- Youre an ass too
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Jeranism Changer He did no research
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Jeranism Changer confirmation bias by paranoid little minions. Those are your friends Eric?
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Jeranism Changer You have proven me absolutely right. That forum you have is a problem. You don't need protectors Eric Dubay
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Don Adams Man you need to grow a pair! I have no investment in either of you 2 asshats.
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Jeranism Changer Well it isn't funny
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Eric Dubay Ok, I have corrected both on YouTube and the forum. I had originally written "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been caught using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." But as you have corrected me here, you were not "caught," but merely "accused of" so I have changed them to say: "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been accused of using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." Neither of these are "libelous" though. The first one was simply incorrect because you haven't been caught.
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Dorcas Leigh when the truth is presented... it is easy to see.... whereas a lie, can NEVER be proved
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Jeranism Changer A scammer stole a man's savings and because I have a heart I helped him and searched and gathered evidence for 7 months
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Jeranism Changer THEN TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO SAYS HE IS ABOUT TRUTH ACCUSE ME OF BEING THE VERY MAN I WAS HUNTING?
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Jeranism Changer YOU ARE SO DUMB
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Jeranism Changer Show me where that accusation is?
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Jeranism Changer Nevrermind- I'm taking you to court- gave you your chance- Its called Libel. I have saved this thread as well as all original posts
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Fred Dibb-Western 22 minutes ago Admin, lizardking and 2 more like this.
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Post by thinkforyourself on 22 minutes ago

There is no doubt about it; he is a scammer and a Government Shill.

We cannot trust anything that he says or does.

you are already condemned Jeran lol
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Don Adams Lol
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Eric Dubay Lol is right.
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Jeranism Changer Good for you all. Hope you sell a bunch of books Eric. I gave you every shot
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Dorcas Leigh Eric... bro... you need to put yerself in his shoes for a minute... look at who YOU are .. to other's... and who Jeran is... to other's... and realEYES how this is affecting everyone... and be responsible for what YOU do... this is yer MOM speaking... !!!! heart emoticon
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Eric Dubay Saying you were caught for a scam you were only accused of is not libelous.
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Eric Dubay It's incorrect, and I have corrected the mistake to say "accused of."
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Jeranism Changer I was not accused you clown
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Jeranism Changer THE SCAMMER ACCUSED ME
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Eric Dubay This is an accusation: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist
Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella…
web.archive.org
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Jeranism Changer If someone accuses a crime- you go to the police
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Eric Dubay That's what you say. You say he's the scammer, he says you are.
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Jeranism Changer Can't you use your fucking head!!!!
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Jeranism Changer OMG I am right here stupid clown
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Eric Dubay Yes I can.
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Eric Dubay Hello.
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Jeranism Changer That site isn't up anymore
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Jeranism Changer No you can't
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Jeranism Changer You are an idiot
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Eric Dubay You are emotional.
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Jeranism Changer I respected you
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Jeranism Changer I spoke highly about you
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Eric Dubay I respected you, that's why I gave you $200
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Jeranism Changer YEAH!
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Eric Dubay Same here.
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Jeranism Changer IM LIVID
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Eric Dubay I see that.
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Jeranism Changer I CHASED THAT SCAMMER FOR 7 MONTHS NOW U SAY I AM HIM
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Jeranism Changer How does that feel to me?
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Eric Dubay It shouldn't feel like anything if it's false. I'm just reporting on a claim made publicly on the internet that anyone can see.
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Jeranism Changer There is no fucking legit claim! C'mon use your brain dude
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Eric Dubay Why are you so upset dude?
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Jeranism Changer accusing me of extrotion
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Jeranism Changer the site is jerancampanella.com
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Jeranism Changer Are you kidding?
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Eric Dubay Yes, be mad at him.
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Jeranism Changer Cause you blindly trust your team of crackheads over there
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Jeranism Changer The site has been removed right?
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Eric Dubay No I don't, I'm asking you, but you're just acting more suspicious.
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Eric Dubay Threatening me and getting upset, calling me names.
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Jeranism Changer Because the IC3 found it unvalid
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Jeranism Changer You pulled the info off a site that had been removed
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Dorcas Leigh wrong Eric... you are not considering who YOU are.. people value your 'opinion'.. and are moved by it... it would be different if you were just an ouotside spectator... but you are NOT and Jeran is not... you are being irresponsible and childish and egocentered... in your stillness?
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Eric Dubay So what do you guys want?
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Eric Dubay You tagged me and told me to respond.
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Eric Dubay I'm here.
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Jeranism Changer I want respect
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Eric Dubay Lol. Earn it.
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Jeranism Changer Wow
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Jeranism Changer I told you I would
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Dorcas Leigh eye want you boys to kiss and make up ...we have work to do
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Eric Dubay I wasn't impressed with the laser test, were you?
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Eric Dubay Why hasn't it been shined across the ocean yet?
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Jeranism Changer Eric can we talk PM
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Eric Dubay Publicly is fine.
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Jeranism Changer It has... did you watch last night?
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Jeranism Changer And by the way- I'll send you the $200 back
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Jeranism Changer LAST THING I WANT
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Jeranism Changer absolute no interest
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Eric Dubay I don't want my money back, I just want you to stop threatening me.
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Eric Dubay Will you stop threatening me with unfounded lawsuits?
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Jeranism Changer I didn't threaten you- you trusted your paranoid crack research team that did terrible investigating
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Jeranism Changer Ever heard of confirmation bias?
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Eric Dubay Just because I said: "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been accused of using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." That is not libel, it is reporting on an actual accusation. You have given your side and I really don't care to be honest.
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Dorcas Leigh take it to the motel guys.. and come back when you cool off... people will be saving these conversations and throwing them back at you.. be careful.. take responsibility for this movemnet which you have in a BIG way been the impetus for
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Jeranism Changer ERIC IT IS A LIE
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Jeranism Changer Show me where it says 80k
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Jeranism Changer You keep lying that is how I know you did no research
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Jeranism Changer You trusted your dumb followers
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Jeranism Changer Show me said accusation
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Jeranism Changer The link you keep posting says 20 btc
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Jeranism Changer
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Eric Dubay Ricky James said 80K: ifers.boards.net/post/11355/thread
Just saying hi! Happy to be here! Jeranism | The International Flat Earth Research...
ifers.boards.net
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Jeranism Changer Prove the $80,000 claim you keep making
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Eric Dubay It's not my claim, I'm reporting on someone else's claim.
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Jeranism Changer RICKY JAMES is the customer accusing MM
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Jeranism Changer You said it as fact- it is a lie
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Eric Dubay And MM is suspected to be a fake name you created.
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Jeranism Changer show me anywhere is says I am accused of 80k
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Eric Dubay I said you were accused of it, that's true.
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Jeranism Changer That's another count
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Jeranism Changer These are all being recorded
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Jeranism Changer You can't just say lies
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Jeranism Changer NO IDIOT WOULD EVER THINK I AM MM IF THEY ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO THIS
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Eric Dubay Good, then chill out.
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Jeranism Changer There are email records - talk to RickyJames
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Jeranism Changer Eric you think I deserve this?
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Eric Dubay Deserve what?
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Jeranism Changer Moriarty put me through straight hell for 8 months
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Jeranism Changer Deserve what?
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Jeranism Changer Dude I cannot believe what happened to you
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Jeranism Changer They got to you didn't they
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Jeranism Changer smh
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Jeranism Changer All about truth while posting false accusation after blatant lie
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Christian Acero hope ya@least getting paid forall this cyphening...etc
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Jeranism Changer You read the PDF Eric? That Ricky James wrote?
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Dorcas Leigh eye cant believe Eric posted something which would injure Jeran, without confronting him first... right after JUST sending him 200 bucks... you know what... this is starting to stink ... of, "gotten to'... if not... then grow up Eric, you acted hastily and without consideration for what it may cause , not only Jeran, but this entire movement...do you GET that??! n... say you are sorry, and tell the TRUTH....... did someone threaten you recently?
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Jeranism Changer All he had to do is think
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Jeranism Changer Use critical thinking and not confirmation bias
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Eric Dubay Ok, I'm sorry and will use more critical thinking next time, okay daddy?
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Jeranism Changer You guys went on a witch hunt and thought you found something
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Jeranism Changer I don't want to be your daddy- friends woulda been good
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Jeranism Changer Did you read the pdf?
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Eric Dubay Ok friend.
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Dorcas Leigh eye dont mind bein yer daddy.... lolol
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Michael J Kahnke Some crack team over there at IFERS, eh?
If I were you, Eric Dubay? I'd delete the post, and not change around a couple words to see if you can make it less slanderous.
I think Jeran has explained and shared enough that we can see this is an unfair attack, motivated by someone who is seeking a dishonest gain.
To continue to feed these rumors by twisting the language around looks baaaaad.
You just bought the scandal when you decided to 'tweak' it, instead of erase it.
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Jeranism Changer If you read that just think- how would Ricky James know to email me?
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Jeranism Changer Here we go
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Jeranism Changer Watch out it's Eric's handlers
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Jeranism Changer Eric I want to see you understand me
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Jeranism Changer THINK DUDE- According to your little theory I would have to be all 3 people
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Jeranism Changer In which case what? I stole 80k from me?
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Jeranism Changer You jumped to conclusions and this is the order of the day at your paranoid forum
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Jeranism Changer Innocent till proven guilty..... You guys go by guilty till we find proof then confirmed guilty
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Fred Dibb-Western you should see the circle jerk which is going down at the IFERS right now
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Jeranism Changer Oh I bet
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Jeranism Changer They thought they found something
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Jeranism Changer Turns out they found a case that was me being a good person and helping someone try and catch a thief for 8 months- costing my family and I money while I had my name dragged in the mud
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Josh Bailey Jeranism, how far can that laser actually shine spec wise?
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Jeranism Changer BUT there is no way that any investigation could come to the conclusion that I am MM
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Eric Dubay Do you know how guilty you sound?
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Eric Dubay You won't shut up about it.
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Jeranism Changer MM is still running sites... stealing money... FBI is on him- like Eric and his team beat the FBI in realizing it was me the journalist the whole time. And I woulda gotta way with it too if it wasn't for those kids
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Jeranism Changer Keep bringing it clown
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Jeranism Changer Every time you know is another charge>
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Jeranism Changer You know that right?
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Jeranism Changer 14 so far
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Eric Dubay Lol.
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Eric Dubay 14 charges of exposing douches on the net?
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Jeranism Changer Wow
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Jeranism Changer You have no brain
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Eric Dubay 15, right?
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Jeranism Changer None
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Eric Dubay Can't say douche?
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Jeranism Changer no
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Dorcas Leigh take responsibility for actions quickly... if yer gonna be a truth guru.. wee little folk...are gonna make you earn it... grow up... dont hang in that ego or it will destroy you
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Jeranism Changer you can say that
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Eric Dubay Lol, and what are the 14 things you decided I can't say?
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Jeranism Changer every time you said 80k and post that post that the IC3 pulled
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Josh Bailey the last thing I wanna hear is something to do with the flat earth being in court, I reckon that would infect the movement big time
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Jeranism Changer I don't want to take this guy to court
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Jeranism Changer You have no idea the respect I had till 12 hours ago
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Jeranism Changer makes me sick
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Josh Bailey mate just do your testing and you will gain unbelievable respect, there is 7+ billion people in the world and youtube is a hit. When you get your test results in everything is gonna blow up for the good of the world lol
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Eric Dubay Yes, focus on that please.
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Eric Dubay Let's see this video.
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Eric Dubay Can you get to work on that for us instead of threatening and freaking out at me for posting links?
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Jeranism Changer We are done Eric Dubay
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Eric Dubay Yay!
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Josh Bailey it would be best man, I don't wanna sound like I am taking sides because I am not, but focusing on negativity never gets anything good done, lets focus on the test and good will come i promise you. You can never solve a situation with the vibration that caused it.
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Jeranism Changer Did you see the live stream last night?
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Jeranism Changer Let me guess you talked more shit on my YT making comments on the video you haven't seen
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Eric Dubay I thought so, but didn't see the part where the laser goes all the way across the ocean and proves the flat Earth.
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Dorcas Leigh we feel that too Jeran ... .. its like disillusionment and betrayal... we all LOVE you Eric! ... and Jeran! heart emoticon
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Jeranism Changer Then you didn't watch at all
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Jeranism Changer You are talking shit and all this through what your team says
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Eric Dubay I watched on Ustream and YouTube, sorry I missed it. Can you give me a link with a time-stamp?
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Jeranism Changer You don't even exist anymore
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Josh Bailey is there any chance it can be uploaded to your channel, I missed it
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Jeranism Changer You are lizardking
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Jeranism Changer Eric you didn't see it but talked shit this morning about it
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Eric Dubay No, I'm not. Now who's making unfounded accusations? I'm taking you to court for calling me lizardking. Did you know that's libelous?
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Jeranism Changer THAT IS REAL RESEARCH?
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Jeranism Changer That's truth?
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Eric Dubay Let me copy/paste the definition of libel for you to read, Jeran...
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Jeranism Changer No it sin't
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Jeranism Changer Lol;
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Jeranism Changer Eric can you not just admit that your forum clan is a little over- protective and they are going to get you in trouble
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Josh Bailey Jeran, can the recording be uploaded to your channel?
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Jeranism Changer IM A GOOD GUY
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And at that point I decided to block him and be done with that noise.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 pm

Posted by incorporated on 06/28/2015
Scammers are well known for creating a smear campaign against their true identity under an alias to draw the heat away. It's a very common tactic. 
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:39 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 06/28/2015

Jun 27, 2015 15:38:03 GMT Admin said:
Eric Dubay Everything is cataloged here in this thread for everyone who wants to see the truth instead of listen to Jeran carry on with his lies about me and IFERS: ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism You have been formally accused of stealing that money Jeran, and JeranCampanella.com was created by the man who accused you of stealing the $80,000. I'm sure you will maintain that you did not, but I am just stating what I have read, that is NOT libel. On that website that was made about you it claims that you threatened him much like you're doing to me now!web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ If you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about man, I'm just reporting what people on IFERS dug up about your past.
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Jeranism Changer LOL
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Jeranism Changer You are fucking done. I will go to court then. What an idiot! I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR
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Jeranism Changer I wrote for cryptocoinnews.com
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Eric Dubay Go to court with what? That I reported on someone's accusation of you? Good luck with that.
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Jeran Campanella, Author at CCN: Financial Bitcoin News
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The key point in all of his desperate spewing is that he defends the Police and admits to working with the FBI. He is basically admitting to being a Government Shill. 

Nothing he says is to be trusted; at the end of the day, he is obviously a disingenuous liar, which we know because he defends Shills and Mark Sargent, and someone went to the effort of starting a website accusing him of stealing for a reason. He is a deeply shady and suspicious character, and we cannot trust anything he says. 

I suggest that you stop wasting your time speaking to him; that is just what he wants you to do. 

We should all move on from this pathetic slime-ball, and get back to spreading the truth.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:40 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 06/28/2015


Jun 27, 2015 15:50:18 GMT incorporated said:
Scammers are well known for creating a smear campaign against their true identity under an alias to draw the heat away. It's a very common tactic. 

He also goes around acting in an arrogant manner, accusing us of being crazy to think that he is a thief, when someone went to the effort of setting up a website directly accusing him of that exact thing. 

I personally believe that he is a Government crook, and that is why he is able to get away with it. It should come as no surprise; stealing is a petty offence compared to most NWO crimes, and just to point out one example, every other police force in Britain is under investigation for criminal activity. 
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:40 pm

Posted by gnosticwarrior on 06/28/2015
Now THAT guy (Jeran) is behaving paranoid as hell in that convo, lmao! Eric just calmly sticks to what's going on, the core issue - and this dude's yelling in caps all over the chat. It's over. He's just digging himself deeper and deeper at this point.

Great work Eric, and thank you for sharing that with us!
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:40 pm

Posted by csp on 06/28/2015
Yes, if he had all this "evidence" wouldn't he simply post it to clear his name? Yet he just keeps ranting and raving?

Simple fact is, "RJ" was trying to "clean" or "launder" a large amount of bitcoins - they could have been coins used for drug dealing/illegal gambling etc - so you can see it's a "perfect scam" because someone who's trying to "launder" bitcoins isn't going to go running to the authorities if it goes wrong.

Also, this is what happens when the federal authorities get involved with "criminals" using bitcoin:
www.coindesk.com/federal-agents-face-arrest-for-alleged-silk-road-bitcoin-theft/

Looks like a shill eat shill world.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:40 pm

Posted by gnosticwarrior on 06/28/2015
I lol'd when that one kid tried to defend him, and Jeran called him an ass or whatever right away 

SHUT UP BILLY, GO BACK INSIDE, lmao.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:41 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015

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Eric Dubay Everything is cataloged here in this thread for everyone who wants to see the truth instead of listen to Jeran carry on with his lies about me and IFERS: ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism You have been formally accused of stealing that money Jeran, and JeranCampanella.com was created by the man who accused you of stealing the $80,000. I'm sure you will maintain that you did not, but I am just stating what I have read, that is NOT libel. On that website that was made about you it claims that you threatened him much like you're doing to me now!web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ If you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about man, I'm just reporting what people on IFERS dug up about your past.
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Love how he wanted to talk in private. Why do they always accuse us of being the same person?

"They got to you, didn't they?" "Watch out, it's Eric's handlers."

This fool is apparently working with the FBI on a case and is pretending to be just some normal guy in the FE community. What a joke. I don't buy that a 'poor journalist' would randomly get in the middle of a BitCoin scam and dedicate 8 months of his time to helping out a total stranger, and somehow become in cahoots with the FBI/IP3.

"Ricky James" himself admits that he only gave "MM" 80 grand in bitcoins because of the "very convincing" interview held between MM and Jeran.

Why was he ever involved in this case?
 
Why is he not threatening to sue every single member on the Bitcoin forums accusing him? Why did he not sue the person on the UStream for libel? The fact that he is threatening to take you to court is absolutely hilarious. What, does he think Thailand is going to extradite you for talking about accusations made by others about someone else? 

csp's comments still stand, he has done nothing to quell any of my suspicious (unfounded or not), he simply worked himself up into a desperate fervor and only made himself look even more of an arse.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:41 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 06/28/2015

He wouldn't be so desperate and paranoid if he were innocent, and he wouldn't keep on ranting like a loon unless he was guilty. He posted no evidence of his innocence, only false threats and meaningless nonsensical gibberish. 

That someone went to the effort of creating a website accusing him of theft is all I need to know. I want nothing to do with him, and I don't want IFERS in anyway associated with that lying prick. He isn't fit to be a shit smear on the boot of the Flat Earth truth movement. 

Let us just ignore him and he will be consigned to the scrapheap of internet Shillery.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:43 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015

Jun 27, 2015 16:28:07 GMT csp said:
Yes, if he had all this "evidence" wouldn't he simply post it to clear his name? Yet he just keeps ranting and raving?

Simple fact is, "RJ" was trying to "clean" or "launder" a large amount of bitcoins - they could have been coins used for drug dealing/illegal gambling etc - so you can see it's a "perfect scam" because someone who's trying to "launder" bitcoins isn't going to go running to the authorities if it goes wrong.

Also, this is what happens when the federal authorities get involved with "criminals" using bitcoin:
www.coindesk.com/federal-agents-face-arrest-for-alleged-silk-road-bitcoin-theft/

Looks like a shill eat shill world.

Good points.

That link is so telling. He keeps telling Eric to call the detective, call the FBI, call the police on the case. Yes, because those institutions are so trustworthy. For all we know, he works directly for them
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:43 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 06/28/2015

He basically did admit to working for them, when he said that he worked 'with them'. 
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:43 pm

Posted by zarlodious on 06/28/2015
Okay after reading the words of Jean in those posts there is no doubt in my mind he is twofaced and a scammer. 

I'm going to again try and see the good in it as this will hopefully spark more people to do these laser experiments.

I will be trying to get a shot of the Bahamas with my newly purchased telescope and camera from 66.6 miles away. Unfortunately it has been very humid and now raining. If I'm successful then I'll be heading down to key west for the Cuba shots.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015


Jun 27, 2015 16:34:59 GMT thinkforyourself 
He wouldn't be so desperate and paranoid if he were innocent, and he wouldn't keep on ranting like a loon unless he was guilty. He posted no evidence of his innocence, only false threats and meaningless nonsensical gibberish. 

That someone went to the effort of creating a website accusing him of theft is all I need to know. I want nothing to do with him, and I don't want IFERS in anyway associated with that lying prick. He isn't fit to be a shit smear on the boot of the Flat Earth truth movement. 

Let us just ignore him and he will be consigned to the scrapheap of internet Shillery.

Yup, he did a wonderful job of acting like an affronted victim but he is just trying to seem genuine. None of his story sounds realistic, why would this bookseller/journalist (what, bookseller/journalist/friend of the FBI/flat earth truther, who is this guy?) be helping out the FBI on a BitCoin case—one that he helped create with his ever-so convincing interview where he gave credibility to and promoted the elusive, FBI-escaping criminal Dr Michael Moriarty? (Moriarty, the Sherlock Holmes' villain, obviously a codename).
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Posted by csp on 06/28/2015
Yes, and Jeran is the one to put the picture on the original "interview", then use it all further "MM" smear campaigns. Would anyone writing a legitimate article accept or use an obvious picture from a "hollywood" movie? I doubt it.


Also note Jeran likes to call him "Doc Ock" for some odd reason, another villian:
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:45 pm

Posted by icedrink58 on 06/28/2015
This Forum is great !!! 

At first i thaught Jeran was a cool guy making really good videos....Now i know he's a completely paranoid piece of garbage.


And funny thing is....this was all totally uncalled for. Wouldn't he have been so fucking stupid to try to defend Sargent Clueless, we probably would still be watching his videos. But now this clown has dug himself so deep into his twisted bullshit that he most likely will not sleep for the next few days. I can cleary imagine how sweat is now pouring down his face, he's breathing hard and yelling "Duuuuuuubayyyyy, arrrrrrgghhhhhhhh......I HAAAAAAATE YOUUUUUU, arrrrrghhhh", lol.

So what if he is exposing NASA with Mark Sargent. Charlie Veitch of the Love Police did great stuff for many years (if i remember correctly) and then all of a sudden he came on BBC claiming he just changed his mind on 9-11 and now completely believes the government story. That's what shills do. They first have to gain some kind of respect from the truth community. Then, when they are established characters with a relatively wide reputation...then they start their shill-operation, whatever it might be. Acting like a complete buffoon, do criminal stuff, get arrested, whatever. 

So long Shillerism, you noble warrior for Bitcoin justice you 
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:45 pm

Posted by maiapleiades79 on 06/28/2015
I was going to put this little tidbit in my video but since no longer making it, decided to post here, in case you guys never saw it.

Jeranism's comment to Reds Rhetoric's videos Jeranism- FLAT Wrong (Part 3:) "Stupid ass! 8 x 55 x 55 = 2016 feet. THE TOP OF THE BUILDING FAGGOT!!! WILLIS TOWER IS 1450 FEET YOU STUPID FUCK! Look at this fucking liar! Calling me a dumb fuck? You stupid clown! 590 FEET? You lying loser!!! You are quote picking too you stupid fuck!"

When I first read that, I was quite shocked. This coming from the great guy who says we should treat others BETTER than we treat ourselves. At the time, I excused it thinking he is only human and it's just Reds Rhetoric's channel. But now, it speaks for itself.

In my video I was going to give anyone $100 if they could find one comment by Eric Dubay that was anyhow close to the comment posted by Jeranism. Because Eric has NEVER once even come close to making such a comment and he's been doing this for years! 

It's almost like jeranged was TRYING during that chat to get Eric all riled up, maybe to try and get something he can use against Eric. But Eric isnt that kind of person.
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:45 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015
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shillerism at its best hahah nice hehe

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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:46 pm

Posted by Jimmy on 06/28/2015
Jeran - "I WANT RESPECT"
Jeran - "I'M A GOOD GUY"

If you have to actually say you are a good guy, you most likely aren't. Who is Jeran trying to convince, himself or us?

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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:46 pm

Posted by schpankme on 06/28/2015
Shillerism means Jeranism 

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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:48 pm

Posted by icarus15 on 06/28/2015
It should be noted that the conversation that ED posted here earlier with Jer unfolded on Jers fb page this morning as I watched.
Now, you can't tell from Eric's post but Jer must of been typing like a frantic madman as he was posting comments/answers, much faster then I could read in order to keep up.
For me, this didnt seem like typical behaviour of one that has nothing to hide.
For me, he seemed like someone who was at least hellbent on salvaging what's left of a reputation... At the VERY least

I mean, if someone were to confront me with something fishy from my past regarding such legal matters, I would surely be prepared to debunk that INSTANTLY!

Then again, afterall i am talking about HIS preparation 'skills'.
Someone who has a cameraman for 2hrs and can't utilize the time.
Or have a spare battery or portable recharger for his cell at least and doesn't even consider it would definitely be needed.
Anyway
I could go on but I'd rather not waste anymore of my valued time on this stooge... Crook or not
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:48 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015

Jun 27, 2015 23:57:44 GMT icarus15 said:
It should be noted that the conversation that ED posted here earlier with Jer unfolded on Jers fb page this morning as I watched.
Now, you can't tell from Eric's post but Jer must of been typing like a frantic madman as he was posting comments/answers, much faster then I could read in order to keep up.
The idea of this is cracking me up.

I agree, he came across as pathetic and desperate. 
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:49 pm

Posted by dan on 06/28/2015
Well f### me. What an absolute balls up this whole saga has been. I really liked Jeranisms vids on you tube and believed he was one of the few genuine level headed blokes out there. When he started making his earlier posts here defending sargent and attacking other members for not doing enough work in the FEC I was extremely surprised and thought to myself "read the bloody sergeant shill thread before you form an opinion". Looking back now it's quite obvious that he has been payed to team up with sargent and promote him here and his comments re allowing shills to poison this forum were completely ludicrous but carefully designed to denigrate IFERS.

When he could not see the difference between asking for donations for a few vids and Eric selling his own books after years of hard work and research I knew he was not who he made himself out to be. He is clearly a very shady character and seems to be all about the money. Go fund me to pay off his mortgage lol. Nice life. He seems to be in massive damage control now but I think the damage to his rep is irreversible and this will follow him for a long long time. I reckon CSP has nailed his bit coin scam and the elusive MM and JC are one and the same.

Great work by you chicks and blokes in outing this fraudster and lets face it? When these idiots keep dropping one by one we always got Eric!
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Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:02 pm

Posted by rebecca on 06/28/2015
Here is the interview with Jeran and Sargent. I am just about to listen to it



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Re: Jeranism Is A Raging Shill

Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:03 pm

Posted by thinkforyourself on 06/28/2015


Jun 27, 2015 23:42:32 GMT wesley said:
As someone who joined just before Jeranism,
I must say this has been quite fascinating. 


It can be hard to tell who is who and what the motivations are
when all you get are tiny avatars and typed words. 
But I've been online since I was a child and it was new.
So I've gotten pretty good at noticing written deceit. 
One thing I can say that is absolutely clear...
If a person attempted to learn more about the idea of the earth being flat,
by reading forums (even this one), they'd be terribly confused. 

And let's admit too, we were all fooled.
At least for a moment.

I'm only weeks old in the flat earth concept.
Part of my brain still won't accept it.
The other part can't unsee it.


I just want to point out that I never 'fell' for Jeranism; I never welcomed him to the forum, or heaped praise on him. Instead, I remained suspicious, because so far every other 'Flat Earth reseacher' with flashy videos has proven to be a Shill, and of course Jeranism also turned out to be one.

I have a simple rule; only Eric can really be trusted. I don't trust anyone else until they prove themselves on the forum. 

I am glad to see that you worked out why they are doing this, and your 'Emperors New Clothes' analogy is a good one. 

As I keep saying, they are scared of Eric, because for the first time in decades, someone is having success spreading the truth about the Flat Earth. If Eric succeeds, they are all proven to be deceptive and evil liars. 
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Re: Jeranism Is A Raging Shill

Post by lizardking on Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:04 pm

Posted by lizardking on 06/28/2015

Jun 28, 2015 8:34:18 GMT rebecca said:
Here is the interview with Jeran and Sargent. I am just about to listen to it

Wow, this is more boring than an episode of Diagnosis Murder, and hearing these two lick out each other's arseholes is nauseating.

They start talking about IFERS at around 35:00. I only know this because I skipped in, there's no way I'm wasting any of my time watching these 'not even flat earther' shills talk about anything other than us.
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